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Brave Iranian protestor girl, today. Be our voice. Politics

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u/khashayaar Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22

Quote from /u/OnlyTennis6991 who explains the situation much better than me.

"A 22 year old young woman was murdered in Tehran, Iran by the morality police, when she was beaten up after she was arrested. She was arrested because some strings of her hair were out of the scarf or hijab. She was transferred to hospital while she did not have any vital signs.

The government initially tried to cover up the whole thing and stated the she had some initial heart condition and diabetes, which it has been proven a pure lie.

After couple of days she was dead. These events has triggered a series of protests in multiple cities and provinces in Iran.

The Iranian people now clashing with the Islamic Republic government targeting the regime itself. The government forces are fighting people with live amo, high pressure water and shut guns."

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u/dedokta Sep 21 '22

I really hope they can make a difference. Often these riots peter out and things go back to normal. Hopefully this one has some momentum.

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u/BentPin Sep 21 '22

A few protests so far against the hard-line but never enough to overthrow like the Arab Spring. They have probably seen the deaths and failures in Syria and messes in other places post-revolution to risk it all but at the same time still feel the need to push back.

The world is changing and the generational conflict is real. Thew new younger folks are tired of the old guard and just wish for them to die so they can govern themselves as they see fit instead of the mess they will be inheriting.

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u/tandrafz97veitz Sep 21 '22

Gonna say for the 357th time.

Religion was invented to oppress women.

All of them, every one.

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u/Hamking7 Sep 21 '22

Yep, though the green movement demos in 2009 were huge in scale yet still didn't really result in change. What a shame, Iran by all accounts is a wonderful country with wonderful people. They're losing so much of their youth and their future as they leave for better lives across Europe and elsewhere.

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u/OldnBorin Sep 21 '22

Ive heard it’s beautiful and would love to visit. Never will tho

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u/bantaiwo Sep 21 '22

Unbelievable, so sad . Poor lady . Who’s rules led to this ? I wonder ?

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u/lockmeup420 Sep 21 '22

It won't go far

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u/tchen67 Sep 21 '22

My heart breaks. our people never wanted this. wearing a hijab is a matter of free will and choice. when will people learn this???

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u/dmr06 Sep 21 '22

I hope situation gets better for you guys. You are trying to get rid of it, our government and some idiots trying to implement it on my country

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u/essdoubleU Sep 21 '22

They're not idiots. They're evil.

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u/tillie4meee Sep 21 '22

They're evil and HATE women.

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u/alisonrdudley Sep 21 '22

Terrible. The US and world community must ensure Iran does not skirt accountability!

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u/tillie4meee Sep 21 '22

So very true. Wearing "cover-up" clothing doesn't make a woman moral - neither do these men who hate women.

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u/spanbias Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 22 '22

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u/tillie4meee Sep 21 '22

Oh definitely!

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u/Abientdilutant484 Sep 22 '22

Ikr. No matter how much they try to dress it up as peaceful; the shit stinks no matter how much cologne you pour on it.

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u/LealDatum50 Sep 21 '22

You support women only in countries that you appose you didn't hear about the ladies and teens beaten by the saudi police in an orphanage last week or you can't talk about it because you will be fired from work

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u/pkusingh Sep 21 '22

My heart is with you sister, I support wholeheartedly.

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u/sheerGlide889 Sep 22 '22

We don’t know the real story, most women there wear hijab but half of there hair shows.

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u/MediocreContent Sep 21 '22

Yeah, this is the gop wet dream for a theocracy and radical right religious fascism.

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u/virusdeluxe Sep 21 '22

It is "Sharia police" not "morality police". Exactly like what ISIS had in Syria.

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u/Stunning-Jaguar-5908 Sep 21 '22

Wow….you really had to make this about yourself didn’t you…just shut up about trump and yourself for once

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u/Patchy248 Sep 21 '22

You don't have to be American to use the internet

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u/eugenesbluegenes Sep 21 '22

Uh, I don't think that user is referring to the US or Trump at all.

You really had to make this about yourself didn't you?

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u/Green_Karma Sep 21 '22

I mean they are a trump supporter so yes, that's what they do. They project.

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u/dmr06 Sep 21 '22

Hey my dude. Im living with these nearly identical pos people who’s trying literally the same bullshit dark age ideas and push their agenda. We all know how iran were and how it is now, and i’m living in the country which goes the same fucking way and i and lots of others can somewhat feel what the people overthere.

Edit: I live in turkey btw.

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u/PM_ME_OPPAI Sep 21 '22

Ever notice that every time a Trumper hears someone talking about evil people without naming a name, they think it's about them?

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u/ENrgStar Sep 21 '22

Lol, I thought the same thing to myself when I read it, but then I’m like… mmmm there’s a lot of fascists in the world.. could be any of them 😂

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u/iiznobozzy Sep 21 '22

Dude the world is so sad. Reading stuff like this really makes me lose all motivation in ever doing anything in my life and just makes me want to sit in a corner and cry

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u/InfiniteBlink Sep 21 '22

Just go outside for a walk and make the best of what you can and appreciate what you have

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u/brocahantas Sep 21 '22

And remind yourself that while there are still fucked up things going on in the world, you’re living through the safest and most progressive time in history.

Things get better over time.

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u/Green_Karma Sep 21 '22

Climate change says hi!

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u/zellegius Sep 22 '22

Since 1979 , Iranian people is suffering from the bad result of revolution!.

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u/The_Finglonger Sep 21 '22

If you think climate change is an existential death sentence, you need to spend more time reading some history.

Life is nothing if not resilient.

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u/ApeJustSaiyan Sep 21 '22

I'm hopeful humanity will change at the precipice. It's human nature to act at the last moment. We just need something that hasn't been invented yet. Could be a simple solution.

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u/tristant400 Sep 22 '22

Since 2019, the hijab or any other form of head covering is not required in Saudi Arabia. Iran and other countries should learn from Saudi.

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u/PunkRockRobot Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22

Which is a great headline but it doesn't mean we can all of a sudden predict the future.

Google Peak Oil and learn just how off scientific projections can be. According to the bulk of experts in the field we should have reached peak oil in 2012. Namely after that time oil supplies would become nonexistent because we had used up all of it. According to them we should be ina Mad Max styme dystopia. Which is clearly way off.

You could go further and look at the predictions about the Ozone layer in the late 1980's. It was all anyone talked about. Nowadays? No even a peep.

Not saying there isn't major issues. Microplastics, the depletion of marine life and more are all part of our responsibilites to keep our planet sustainable and healthy. We should be worried and there needs to be a call to acton.

But to assume the sky is falling is absolute nonsense. Sticking your head in the ground because the end is near is not the right approach.

Go watch Al Gore's an Inconvenient Truth. No doubt the messaging is important but the alarmism is NOT the way to go. He basically stated the coastal coties would be under water by now and that the north pole would be ice free...in 2013.

Now was he off? Yes, way off, butnwas he wrong? Not about our responsibility to the planet and the future generations we are caretaking it for.

But the tone? Bad. It caused panic and reactionary behavior that sowed derision, a divided population, depression in future generations and worse, knee jerk policy response.

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u/gambit07 Sep 21 '22

fyi-the reason no one talks about the ozone layer anymore, is because effective measures were put in place by governments to halt its depletion. Didn't just magically become a non-issue

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u/JenovaCelestia Sep 21 '22

This may sound counterintuitive given the subject of the discussion and the photo, but often times, you need to start thinking and feeling LOCALLY rather than GLOBALLY. This isn’t me saying the cause isn’t great and it shouldn’t have support; it absolutely should! I am merely stating that you need to bring your focus back to what’s around you that you can actively see rather than focus on global conflicts that do not have a greater impact on your everyday life. I say this for the last time: global conflicts are important and they need attention, but give yourself breaks from giving it that attention.

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u/idwthis Sep 21 '22

you need to start thinking and feeling LOCALLY rather than GLOBALLY

I'm starting with the man in the mirror, I'm asking him to change his ways, and no message could have been any clearer, if you want to make the world a better place, take a look at yourself and then make a change

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u/dprmontreal Sep 21 '22

Why are such brutality by the police is tolerated?

Those police officers should be investigated and fired or worse.

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u/ThePyroPython Sep 21 '22

Sounds like with your lack of empathy there's a great career in banking for you.

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u/Vsevse Sep 21 '22

Just because something isn't happening to them or to any of us doesn't mean we aren't affected. Empathy is a good thing and this person is describing the feeling of despair.

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u/AmericanRingling917 Sep 21 '22

Islam would had been a much better religion had there been a few female Prophets also.

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u/fozzyboy Sep 21 '22

She was transferred to hospital while she did not have any vital signs.

After couple of days she was dead.

Either someone doesn't know the meaning of "vital signs" or she was dead sooner.

She might have been revived only to die again later, but that is a little uncommon and a noteworthy enough detail to leave out.

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u/ThatYodaGuy Sep 21 '22

chill mate. English is obviously not their primary language

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u/khashayaar Sep 20 '22

Ask your governmetns, your local MPs, Representatives, councils, etc.. to show support and be the voice of Iranian people.

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u/socks_w_sandals Sep 21 '22

I certainly hope that our representatives would voice support for women's rights and expanding freedoms in Iran. I'm saddened though, because the reality is, this is up to the Iranian people alone. Hopefully this is the catalyst for some major change. The people of Iran have to choose their path forward. I'm cautiously optimistic.

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u/Maitre-de-la-Folie Sep 21 '22

I’m afraid they are to busy with energy problems. But I will ask those who claim to stand for womens rights but stay quite about your suffering.

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u/oxalicEmptying844 Sep 21 '22

Five nights of protest have occurred in Iran after a young woman who was arrested by Islamic police for an alleged hijab violation died.

Women have been burning hijabs in protest. Meanwhile, in the West, the hijab is encouraged as a symbol of diversity.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 24 '22

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u/sbollini19 Sep 21 '22

Do you even realize how dumb you sound right now? No police force in the world is perfect but acting like it is worse in the US is just plain stupid. Honest question... would you rather walk around the US as a black man or the streets of Iran as a woman without a hijab?

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u/bwpopper37 Sep 21 '22

A worse situation elsewhere doesn't make the bad situation here good.

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u/DGCbest Sep 21 '22

I don't see the irony. Hijabs are strictly required for women, and for women only, by their theocratic government for religious/cultural reasons, which has made it a symbol of discrimination and oppression against Iranian women.

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u/IamAgainInReddit Sep 21 '22

I will ask MPs to apologize for 1953 CIA coup. All the crisis began with it.

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u/NomNomNommy Sep 21 '22

Sorry to be crass, but no one gives a shit. No one will give a shit, everyone in power is too concerned with lining their own pockets and amassing wealth.

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u/CoreSprayandPray Sep 21 '22

Take the power back

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u/Minukaro Sep 21 '22

And do what? Police the world again?

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u/khashayaar Sep 20 '22

Iranian people have started protests all over Iran after the murder of #mahsa_amini by the Iranian police because she "was not wearing hijab properly". People are trying to defeat the dictatorship regime. Be our voice.

It is very likely that in a few days our internet will be cut down by the regime so they can continue their murders with no repercussions.

The only reason that it has not been shut sown yet, is that the president of the regime, Ebrahim Raeesi is visiting New York for the UN aseembely and they do not want him to be questioned while he is there.

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u/kalnu Sep 21 '22

I hope it is successful and Iran can progress into a modern day country instead of being stuck in the middle ages. A theocracy that enslaves women and strips them of all rights like these extremist nations do have no place in the modern world, imo. I don't care what the religion is, it shouldn't be used as an excuse to murder women who want to be treated with respect.

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u/onefoot_out Sep 21 '22

Who deserve to be treated like human beings, not property*

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u/cokeman_c1 Sep 21 '22

The protests isn't about so they can show their hair freely.

It's about "choice". Being able to choose if you want to wear a certain thing or not.

In others words protesting for freedom of making your own "choices".

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u/llamagoelz Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22

...Ebrahim Raeesi is visiting New York for the UN assembly and they do not want him to be questioned while he is there

This is a damn good reason for people to SEND MESSAGES TO YOUR LOCAL REPRESENTATIVES asking them to put kind, but firm pressure on Iran's leadership.

I know apathy and nihilism is trendy but making your voice known really does work and it takes such an insignificant amount of your day. For the USA: https://www.commoncause.org/find-your-representative/addr/

The circles of influence are wide albeit shallow for people in power but a couple inches of rain quickly becomes a flood.

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u/WarmProfit Sep 21 '22

it's not trendy, it's a defense mechanism to seeing reality where we have very little ability to make a difference. Imagine a world where thousands of people all desperately email some random about "please be a good guy" and that's the most power they will probably ever expert onto the world

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u/vikki141414 Sep 21 '22

Before the US got involved in the Middle East, Iran was the most progressive nation over there.

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u/Dat1Duud Sep 21 '22

Man, people need to stop telling other people how to live.

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u/Schmich Sep 21 '22

Agreed even though that statement is a bit ironic!

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u/Toasted_Bagels_R_Gud Sep 21 '22

I want to support them, I know they are really risking their lives for freedom but Idk how to..

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u/Arqideus Sep 21 '22

If you're countries away, you can't do too much. The only thing you can do is talk about it with other people in the same situation. Spread the news of what's happening.

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u/susieallen Sep 21 '22

Same here. I wish there was something I could do to help. I'm just going to screenshot and share it on my other social media to spread the word.

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u/NightW01F Sep 21 '22

Raise awareness, reach out to your politicians, political and human rights activists, even social media influencers to spread the word.

If the world is watching closely, it'd cost the regime more to suppress the protests.

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u/Le_Gentle_Sir Sep 21 '22

I mean, this is reddit. We all just support the current thing from our basement masturbatoriums.

Covid, then BLM, ukraine war was after that, now we're moving onto this. Now that it hit the front page multiple times on reddit/twitter, it'll be pretty easy to spread awareness.

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u/BigDaddyCoolDeisel Sep 21 '22

Amazing bravery. I wish I had the guts if the bell ever tolled but I'm not sure I do.

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u/agnostic_science Sep 21 '22

I think a key screw-up by the regime was giving pissed off young people another reason to believe they have little to lose. If you feel you can be beat and murdered for no reason... If your children can be beat and murdered for no reason... How can you continue to live? How can you not be ready to burn it all down?

We're really lucky in the West because we don't have to know what it's really like to live in a environment of constant fear and powerlessness. At some point it's too suffocating and the rage just explodes.

Just imagine, in a place like Iraq I remember hearing stories where a daughter might disappear. The police show up later to the parent's house with pictures of her, violated and murdered. Simply to remind them who is boss. Everyone knew that. And the Iraqi people still didn't revolt. The rage was contained. People around the world are not so different from you and I. So imagine how awful it has to be for so long in a place like Iran for the rage to finally explode like this. At some point, you can't not fight anymore.

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u/tombalfoort Sep 21 '22

I hope this time they succeed. Some support and solidarity from the free world would be nice.

And media could cover muuuuuuuch more.

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u/Km219 Sep 21 '22

Always makes me sad when Americans Europeans Canadians complain how bad they have it.

They really know nothing of how bad it could really be. And this situation isn't even that bad, the atrocities that happen in some African countries are unspeakable.

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u/SpazMcMan Sep 21 '22

This is something I used to struggle with too, before I realized that things being worse somewhere else is not a reason to be silent. It's good to know what is happening elsewhere to appreciate how much worse things could be, but it shouldn't keep us from being vigilant against injustice.

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u/Apocalyptic-turnip Sep 21 '22

it's not the pain olympics, someone else having bigger problems doesnt invalidate your problems, you can be aware the scales are different and still be pissed off at both

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u/ggeissner Sep 21 '22

In the West, Muslim women are encouraged to wear a hijab, if they CHOSE to, without fear of being attacked or labeled a terrorist. That's how America works.

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u/needy654 Sep 21 '22

Probably a good idea to blur her face out! Very brave

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u/XxxLasombraxxX Sep 21 '22

Hijab should be a choice, not a requirement.

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u/craftaleislife Sep 21 '22

Sadly strong religious nuts don’t view it this way. Religion has a lot to answer for

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u/Dlatch Sep 21 '22

Religion is like a penis: it's fine if you have it, but I don't need to see it and for fucks sake, never force it upon anyone.

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u/craftaleislife Sep 21 '22

I like this analogy

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u/alien_clown_ninja Sep 21 '22

You can't helicopter your religion

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u/NoPushN Sep 21 '22

Ever heard of the Crusades?

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u/alien_clown_ninja Sep 21 '22

Jesus, how big is your penis?

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u/MahmoudAlyudeen Sep 21 '22

Genius comma placement

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u/cerebrite Sep 21 '22

There is no tolerance for accepting others' views, preferences and choices. Be it life style or religious.

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u/Wasntryn Sep 21 '22

Even when it’s a choice many are shamed or shunned or not respected by family for it

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u/Mine24DA Sep 21 '22

I mean that is an inherent problem in many families, people get shunned for their choices, and for who they are by bigoted families all the time. For being LGBT, for not going to church or marrying someone of a different ethnicity, Religion, skin colour. For not wearing a hijab, for not studying what their parents want, or not living Tradition gender roles. All symptoms of the same controling nature of parents.

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u/Ilfirion Sep 21 '22

Not just that. When I was a kid, I lived in the US for 3 years. 1st to 3rd grade.

Having to pledge allegiance to the flag is something else as well. I mean, I am german. At the time it seemed normal, but we knew we had to do it. Knowing me today, I wonder what would have happend if let´s say in high school, I decided to not do that. Doubt it would have gone well.

Then coming back to germany, going to german school I was shunned by my teacher for doing maths the american way. Or for not speaking proper german.

Life is akward. I think a lot of westerners look at arabians countries and think it´s bad the way they shun people, while doing in ourselves over here as well.

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u/FunOwner Sep 21 '22

I wonder what would have happend if let´s say in high school, I decided to not do that.

Nothing. They can't actually force you to say it, a lot of high school kids learn that by that point and will refuse as a small act of rebellion. No one cares.

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u/DikDirgler Sep 21 '22

They may not be able to make you "legally" but they sure can write you up and call your parents. Then you gotta explain why you hate America. It happened to me and plenty of friends. It comes down to who's willing to stand by your "right" and it ain't your school or family sooo..

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u/Mine24DA Sep 21 '22

Yeah the flag is weird. The new teachers in Germany are better though , as long as you work on getting better.

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u/catchunxttuesday Sep 21 '22

Love this picture! This is so punk rock. You go girls. Show those fucking assholes

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u/Y_Deadman_N Sep 21 '22

Please search #mahsaamini on instagrams also check “1500tasvir” page on instagram This page is posting what is going on all over iran. People are in streets beaten up in some states police is using guns against people! Please be our voice

if you don’t have instagram check r/iran If you didn’t get update from us know that government cut our internet

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u/poonamsurange Sep 21 '22

Am following and kudos to her.

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u/padiadi Sep 21 '22

Fuck moral police and trollers all over the world!

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u/mrgenier Sep 21 '22

The Hijab Revolution.

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u/esoslargoscarpintero Sep 21 '22

No better time than now to find you inner feminist as an Iranian man. Support your woman!

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u/lonigus Sep 21 '22

There is nothing about this in our media here.

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u/einemnes Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22

First, whoever pixelated this picture, well done, it helps to avoid the beasts out there to seek for guilts or vengeance.

Second, I'm from Spain and TV is talking basically 0 about this subject, makes me think governments had a kind of agreement to hide this in order to keep things as they are. I really hope there is this change in the culture of Arab countries, always under the yoke of (totalitarian) religion. But I'm afraid this event will stay as a small event with some detentions and that's all, everything will stay the same as always.

Again I really hope these actions are the beginning of a new path to religion-free society. Best of luck to all women and men helping this movement.

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u/Y_Deadman_N Sep 21 '22

They’re now cutting our internet. If you didn’t get any update from us know that our internet is gone and they’ll kill us like 3 years ago and nobody will ever find out about it.

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u/GeekMomtoTwo Sep 21 '22

Hey, I hope you and your loved ones are alright. I can't even imagine what you all are going through.

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u/Y_Deadman_N Sep 21 '22

Thank you. Unfortunately 3 men and 1 women were killed . We don’t know about others yet. It’s really sad to watch all of these people are near my age and were killed for our basic rights . We’re all disgusted by this regime . It feels like we’re all under water we can’t breathe nor talk .they always find a way to make us silent. I really hope this time something change

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u/Sydardta Sep 21 '22

Religion is a plague on humanity.

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u/RedOrchestra137 Sep 21 '22

Organised religion is a tool criminals abuse to maintain power and influence. It has a place in modern society, just not when it comes to practical decision making and developing our understanding of the universe on a material level

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u/doorbellrepairman Sep 21 '22

Can apologists stop acting like it's bad apples spoiling religion? It's been several thousand years of this shit. The religion is the problem, put it in the bin.

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u/tominator93 Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22

I get what you’re saying I suppose, but the same argumentation could be validly applied to people in general: “Can apologists stop acting like it's bad apples spoiling the human race? It’s been several hundred thousand years of this shit.”

It’s comforting to believe that if we just eliminated one or two ideologies, or even a category of belief systems, that all would be well in the world, but unfortunately I don’t think it’s quite that simple. Humanity has some recurring problems that need to be solved, especially when we start to interact in big groups.

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u/BabyGotBackspace Sep 21 '22

Please elaborate on the two religions or categories. I feel like those two or the category are a 'now' thing as one of the not included seems to have become dominant and very wealthy and powerful by doing some crusading and can kick back now and not deal properly with their own issues but use their power to bury them as best they can. I agree, to a point, with what you are implying but all religions can stay or none, but they need to get out of the governments as religion is a choice, and just an ideology not facts, right?, and your government really isn't.

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u/Cottonjaw Sep 21 '22

Moving the goal posts to "the whole of the human condition" is a little far don't you think? Religion is a choice. A made up one.

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u/bigots_hate_her Sep 21 '22

Lmao, show me Atheism itself pushing that shit.

Are there atheists who are bad people? Yes, do they do shit in the name of atheism? Absolutely not.

And before anyone brings the soviets and so on, they did what they did for communism, not atheism.

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u/RedOrchestra137 Sep 21 '22

I don't think so, it can act as an important source of meaning creation and community to a lot of people. It really is people interpreting some old texts to fit whatever oppressive scheme they wanna implement. The concept of religion itself is an essential part of human nature i think.

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u/psykonaut7 Sep 21 '22

well you think wrong, fred. the concept which is an essential part of human nature is science and mathematics, language, the history of the planet we live on and that's it.we don't need an imaginary figure that is deemed all- knowing to pray to. to sacrifice innocent animals and in some cultures innocent human beings.

hell, we don't even need cultural differences to be remarked upon. I believe that if cultural differences exist due to varied geographies and historical lineage, that is okay and bound to be, but the way that religious organizations have exploited this inherent diversity of the human condition is abhorrent. diabolical.

let us be. those of us that want to believe in the divine can do so on our own time and in our own way. We don't need other people to tell us how to do something that is so personal. And enforce their understanding of a literary piece in ways that cause trauma and suffering and may well be the end of our species.

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u/RedOrchestra137 Sep 21 '22

We don't need other people to tell us how to do something that is so personal. And enforce their understanding of a literary piece in ways that cause trauma and suffering and may well be the end of our species.

That is what i'm saying though isn't it? I don't really understand your argument cause on the one hand you speak from an atheist standpoint, seemingly disagreeing that religion has a place in society, but then you acknowledge that people can believe in the divine, but not with others telling them how to do it. That's exactly what i mean, if that wasn't clear.

Also, everyone serves or believes something, otherwise we wouldnt get out of bed in the morning. I don't believe in a god either but i do believe in the merit of spirituality, community and getting more in touch with our environment. This is something every single human culture has done in one way or another, so it must be important to our mental wellbeing.

That's something that can and should be encouraged and facilitated more in western society i think. Maybe people wouldn't feel so isolated and jaded from years of only surface level interaction with their environment. I like how churches are being rehabilitated for example. They don't represent the house of christianity anymore, but more a public space reserved especially for introspection and personal spiritual practices.

Even if it's just sitting around with some people having an open-minded conversation i think that could be beneficial to a lot of people. Maybe then people wouldn't feel the need to pay someone to have an honest conversation with them without being judged. Cause a lot of people don't have people they can have those kinds of conversations with, so they look for alternatives.

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u/yolower Sep 21 '22

Stunning and brave! What a statement! You sure showed them.

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u/brocahantas Sep 21 '22

They’re not wrong.

Wonder why you’re getting so defensive.

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u/yolower Sep 21 '22

Making a statement against someone's identity will definitely change their mind. Lol

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u/agnostic_science Sep 21 '22

These kinds of bigoted and dehumanizing statements are a plague on humanity. Don't kid yourself. A regime need religion at all in order to do monstrous things. Genghis Khan wasn't a theocrat. Khmer Rogue had nothing to do with religion. China's government has no religion but are committing genocide right now no problem.

The common denominator to evil in all cases is not religion. It's dehumanization. It's finding ways to treat people as inferior. Findings ways to flip off our empathy switch and treat humans as logs instead of people. Religion is just a convenient bag of excuses. But it is not the only bag for people to draw from by a long shot. So honestly, calling religion a 'plague' is a real great start down the road of toxic hate. So please, please, please. Please knock it off and show some more empathy.

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u/hego555 Sep 21 '22

Religion has been the cause of more death than atheism. You never hear of the great atheist crusades. Stop kidding yourself

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u/well_shoothed Sep 21 '22

Say it louder for the kids in the cheap seats!

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u/Curse3242 Sep 21 '22

As someone who does not beleive in it much. There is a place for it because without religion the world would turn to chaos. That's just how it works

But on the other side of that coin is forced and organised religion. Both are cancer. We need a balance.

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u/FNKTN Sep 21 '22

Only shitty people use religion as a imaginary leash to justify fake attempts at being a good person.

Countries with the strongest religious laws are the most barbaric and chaos ridden. Its absolutely a cancer that doesnt serve humanity.

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u/diodelrock Sep 21 '22

That's why religious states like sub-saharan Africa are beacons of development and order while more atheistic countries like Scandinavia and France at chaotic hellholes.

The main source of chaos are economic inequalities (for which religion does fuck-all) and religious extremism

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u/newfoundp3ace Sep 21 '22

This is like super brave. Wtf

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u/Weedylira753 Sep 21 '22

Persians and Persian culture has nothing to do with the oppressive Islamic rules.

Islam is relative new to the long and glorious history of Persia.

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u/ramen_nmu Sep 21 '22

If you don't hear from us anymore,we want you to know that the government cut off the internet and we can't send our voice to the world..

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u/preemnpreem Sep 22 '22

I appreciate how they all are United in the name of one to protest against compulsion or coercion

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '22

Iranian men, apparently: "A woman's hair! The world is ending!"

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u/panorambo Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22

Old men telling everyone else what to do, in the name of "order and stability". A more tired trope hasn't existed through history, and I fear will exist for a while longer before we collectively truly learn one of the probably most important lessons in the history of our civilization. If it's Putin channelling his insanity into puppeteering Russia down a flight of stairs to proverbial hell, in the name of "progress and prosperity", or whether it's the ruling elite of Iranian male clerics so rigid and dry you could use them for absorbing excess moisture in the air -- it follows the same destructive spiral, always and every time, dragging a lot of innocent people with it. Why can't these maniacs see something that doesn't work, before it has to kick their teeth in? Must be some perverted manifestation of the good old survival trait, the "I will make it work" resolve. A natural drive gone completely overboard. It's damn near an endemic disease, made worse by the disproportionately large aftermath it creates every time it flares up.

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u/blueheartsadness Sep 21 '22

I STAND WITH THE WOMEN OF IRAN. I LOVE YOU. KEEP FIGHTING!!!

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u/vcshihbtc Sep 21 '22

Very Good

Women must not be Slavery to Men anymore, Fight for Rights. Free from Hijab

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u/alfeijoo Sep 21 '22

I hope all the good guys in your country will also support it.

Must be nicer to be equal and come together with women too, than surrounded by a bunch of aggressive angry men.

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u/casbartle Sep 21 '22

Good job break the chains , if men can breathe the. Women should breathe too , no burqa no hizab ,change the ruler ,bring women in power

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u/thomaswilson12 Sep 21 '22

People here dont CHOOSE to wear hijab they are FORCED

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u/camouflage365 Sep 21 '22

Meanwhile in Europe if you say anything against hijabs, you're considered racist.

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u/Mumi24 Sep 21 '22

Tell me, what would you say about the Hijab in Europe?

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u/camouflage365 Sep 21 '22

Oppressive. Controlling. Misguided.

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u/[deleted] Sep 21 '22

I'm not from europe but I have european friends. The consensus is that people hate it, and almost no one wears it out of good will. It's mostly women been told by other man to wear that, or women that got brainwashed with fear all their lives to wear it. But in some corners of the internet, if you say that, you'll be called a bigot, racist, fascist, and every other flavor.

A few days ago there was a guy with -80 points saying women shouldn't be obliged to wear it, and everyone was name calling him and saying that powerful women scare him (???) . I don't remember the sub, but it happens in a lot of places.

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u/Mumi24 Sep 21 '22

For Islamic women who choose to wear the hijab it allows them to retain their modesty, morals and freedom of choice. They choose to cover because they believe it is liberating and allows them to avoid harassment. I see a bigger problem in western society telling young women to wear* tight or open clothes so they can get attention.

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u/Throawayooo Sep 21 '22

Actually read the awful shit you write. The fact Islamic women think they need to cover themselves up to avoid the sexual harassment from their men speaks volumes about Islamic culture.

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u/All-about-success Sep 21 '22

Fuck Iran governshit

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u/gdtimmy Sep 21 '22

Free the human race! From tyranny and oppression laws!

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u/FunDog2016 Sep 20 '22 Ally

Rosa Parks is clapping for this young woman! You go girl - don't let little men tell you how to live.

American Women....you seeing this? Take a lesson! Republicans will be having thier own religious police force soon, if given the chance. Stop them before the zealots can do any more damage in the name of religion!

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u/Uplink84 Sep 21 '22

Men are protesting with them. Stop trying to find enemies everywhere

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u/FunDog2016 Sep 21 '22 Take My Energy

I am celebrating women leaders taking risks for what they deeply believe. I am saying they are examples for other women fighting theocratic based gender bias, leading to oppression. Virtually every single religion working to oppress women, is led by males, with rules made by, and enforced by, males!

Doesn't mean all males are bad. Doesn't mean men can't be allies. Doesn't say males don't have a role! At least, as a man, I certainly hope not!

The tool of religious theocracy was created largely by men, for men! No Girls Allowed! Was a common rule......so men have an outsized obligation to right this wrong, not feed it. And denial of its origin, and power is chosen ignorance. Women deserve better!!

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u/Uplink84 Sep 21 '22

Ok sorry

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u/Le_Gentle_Sir Sep 21 '22

Reminder that 40% of women are pro life lol. Why is this always framed as a gender war?

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u/FunDog2016 Sep 21 '22

Funny what a few hundred years of religious indoctrination will do to a humans, isn't it! SMFH!

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u/Minukaro Sep 21 '22

Least delusional redditor

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u/ntmw Sep 21 '22

Rosa parks is dead, not clapping. It’s religion telling this woman how to live, not men. There cannot be a religious police per the US Constitution, please read it. You have emotional arguments against this problem instead of rational ones. Islam is poison to rational thought. Religion, in general, is poison to rational thought. Stop the zealots and the moderates of religion in order to stop this poison.

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u/FunDog2016 Sep 21 '22

Thank you so much for the explanation...I had no idea, that a Civil Rights pioneer could be dead yet!

I like the point about religion not men being the problem, and I agree. Say, do you know of any religion led by women that is actively trying to oppress women....asking for a friend?

Thank God for rhe news about the Constitution, I am sure it, and it's interpretation, will remain pure under a Theocracy. That always happens......right?

I think we covered the whole religion thing above already. Once again thanks so much for your enlightenment! We are all, no doubt, a little older after reading it.

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u/ntmw Sep 21 '22

Sarcasm is what I get for trying to interact with substance and in good faith. Stay cool Reddit.

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u/FunDog2016 Sep 21 '22

If you stayed cool in the first place would we be talking?

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u/Kin_Seth Sep 21 '22

I don't agree with what ntmw said, but I also don't see them as being blatantly dismissive or disrespectful in the way you were. If you see someone doing something you don't agree with or thing is wrong/bad, be better. Not more of the same.

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u/foeshow Sep 21 '22

it's hard to reply to people who irrationally demands rationality.

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u/foeshow Sep 21 '22

stop acting like religion is this magic thing that makes people irrational. it's a tool that men use to rule. start to think rational.

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u/dirkdisco Sep 21 '22

How about you VOTE. This Iranian cannot vote. Stop trivializing her problems with your made up problems.

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u/oulker1980 Sep 21 '22

Women must decide what they must wear. Iranian leaders must embrace this reality when arriving at a decision of Hijab.

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u/Xeludon Sep 21 '22

"tHe hIjAb iSn'T oPpResSiVe!"

That's funny, because the hijab is never once uttered in the Q'uran, and is an entirely new concept created in 1981.

In the Q'uran, the only thing it says even remotely close is "women and men must dress modestly" (paraphrasing) that's basically all it says, that both men and women must dress modestly.

Hiding their hair and body under headscarves wasn't mandatory until 1981, and has nothing to do with Islam, it was created by Islamic extremists.

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u/bundycamp Sep 21 '22

It wasn’t mandatory in Iran until 1981 but hijab certainly existed for all of Muslim history.

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u/Xeludon Sep 21 '22

It's a piece of cloth worn on the head.

It's existed throughout all history in all countries, but what hasn't existed was it being a requirement within Islam.

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u/BoxGrover Sep 21 '22

Brave Palestinians have been doing this for decades against brutal occupiers

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u/Excellent-Cow-1047 Sep 21 '22

By having a religious terrorist group sending missiles to civilians because some arabs did not want to pay their rent ?

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u/diodelrock Sep 21 '22

You're thinking about Israel bud

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u/Excellent-Cow-1047 Sep 21 '22

I’m talking about the Hamas that uses the Israel Palestin problem in order to propagate their influence

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u/jivatma Sep 21 '22

Who da fuq is downvoting this?

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u/Teantis Sep 21 '22

I imagine most governments, including Iran's hire troll farms at this point.

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u/lalauna Sep 21 '22

How i love these brave people! Gods help and protect then

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u/Mumi24 Sep 21 '22

How ironic…to ask god for help

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u/lalauna Sep 21 '22

Seems to me they're not turning away from their god or their religion, just human-made oppressive things.

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u/kstanman Sep 21 '22

That's some Queen.

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u/mansmanclub Sep 21 '22

Extreme religion is harmful for people. It removes G-d from their hearts and replaces with hate.

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u/DefNotYashar Sep 21 '22

Merci khashayar 🖤

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u/Z3nFi3R Sep 21 '22

Go girl

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u/Bucketlist074 Sep 21 '22

So much love and respect to these amazing strong brave women ❤️

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u/craftaleislife Sep 21 '22

Can we not compare a real woman fighting for her rights and life to a movie character? Cheers mate

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u/bigdaddyinc Sep 20 '22

Meanwhile all the usual media (WaPo, NYT and BBC etc) is supporting hijab in Indian schools and wants women to wear hijab… go figure

Crazy world I tell you 🤣

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u/boooooooooo_cowboys Sep 20 '22

There’s a world of difference between allowing students to wear a hijab if they want to and beating a woman to death for having her hijab slightly out of place.

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u/Maitre-de-la-Folie Sep 21 '22

Adults can choose. Children are pressured into it. That’s a fundamental thing in religion.

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u/bigdaddyinc Sep 21 '22

There is a difference in following the schools for past 70 years without hijab and now pushing the girls to file a court case… it’s callled brainwashing… all supported in the name of freedom of choice

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u/Slick424 Sep 21 '22

LOL. EVerYone WHo DOESn't THInk LiKe me IS bRAINwAsHeD.

Ok.

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u/Elements18 Sep 21 '22

You're spamming this exact comment on any post about this. Piss off, robot.

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u/bigdaddyinc Sep 21 '22

Then don’t read my comments or respond to them, just like it’s ur “choice” to enforce hijab in one country and call it oppression in another country… it’s my choice to use the same comment on multiple posts…. Don’t like me bite me

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u/Elements18 Sep 21 '22

Lol I'm not middle eastern...I'm anti religious. You're just a spammer. Don't copy paste, it lowers your credibility and makes you look like a fake news bot.

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u/bigdaddyinc Sep 21 '22

You can take ur opinions and as you said “piss off”

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u/slurmfactory Sep 21 '22

Came here saying shed better be censored for her safety. Glad to see it!