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The Last of the Mohicans Turns 30: Michael Mann's Incisive Piece of Historical Fiction Article

https://thefilmstage.com/the-last-of-the-mohicans-turns-30-michael-manns-incisive-piece-of-historical-fiction/
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u/Ok-Ordinary2035 Sep 25 '22

Daniel Day Lewis and Madeline Stowe were gorgeous, the score unforgettable.

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u/zerocoolforschool Sep 25 '22

Madeline Stowe had such a unique beauty. She also was great in The Generals Daughter.

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u/Zyybolt Sep 26 '22

I had a huge crush on her in High School.

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u/Ok-Ordinary2035 Sep 25 '22

Just stunning

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u/PradleyBitts Sep 26 '22

Promontory is amazing. That scene is amazing.

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u/Kbdiggity Sep 25 '22

Duncan: There is a war on. How is it you are heading west?

Hawkeye: Well, we kinda face to the north and, real sudden-like, turn left.

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u/Brass_and_Frass Sep 26 '22

I always thought he said “real subtle-like, turn left”.

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u/CriscoCamping Sep 25 '22

When the grey hair is dead, Magua will eat his heart

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u/mr_ji Sep 25 '22

In response to why Magua hates Munro so much. Everybody here talking about the Mohicans but Wes Study deserves some credit for playing such a great antagonist.

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u/Thundrous_prophet Sep 25 '22

Wes Studi was sooooooo fucking good. The way he portrayed hate when he tells Montcalm about why he hates the “Yang-ghee” was chilling

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u/yeti7100 Sep 25 '22

Grey hair,

Before you die,

Know that I will put,

Under the knife,

Your children,

So I will,

Wipe from the Earth,

Your seed forever.

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u/giraffebacon Sep 25 '22 Gold

He does a really, really good job of portraying the foreign-ness of that character, while still allowing him to be readable by Anglo-westerners like us.

I’m part native and whenever I read letters or diaries from my ancestors (only 100-150 years ago but they were still living fairly separate from modern society) I’m struck by how incredibly different their perspectives and values are from my own, and just how ALIEN their thought processes seem. Wes Study is the best Hollywood portrayal of that I think I’ve ever seen. It’s hard to put into words but he nailed it.

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u/fulthrottlejazzhands Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

That's just it. He plays having an alien, but completely rational, thought process perfectly. Of course he wants to wipe out the yang-gee's family, because they wiped out his -- eye for an eye. The look of indignance and near confusion on his face when the French general asks why he wants to kill them all is like someone asking why you would cook rice before eating it.

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u/floresdelmar Sep 25 '22

Definitely curious. Do you have any recommendations to read?

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u/browndog03 Sep 25 '22

Its good to see him in Reservation Dogs

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u/Present_Creme_2282 Sep 25 '22

He also plays a bad ass geronimo, in the movie geronimo

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u/bezelbubba Sep 25 '22

Best bad guy eva.

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u/OhioForever10 Sep 25 '22

Then after that, Studi found out about Heat so he called Michael Mann and said "I hear you're making a movie with Pacino, De Niro - and me. When do I start?" And that's how he got cast as a secondary detective.

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u/robearIII Sep 25 '22

fucking balsy shit, love it

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u/captain_flak Sep 25 '22

He was great in that too. Michael Mann can do no wrong.

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u/FlokiWolf Sep 25 '22

I loved that Wes Studi and Maurice Roeves became friends while filming.

Maurice and his wife bought a condo near Wes in the US and spent winters there hanging out with Wes and his family.

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u/FlokiWolf Sep 25 '22

That's the tweet I was thinking of when I wrote my comment. Thanks!

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

This is fascinating; Wes Studi's wife is the daughter of Jack Albertson (Grandpa Joe in "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory").

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u/AgoraiosBum Sep 25 '22

When Grandpa Joe is dead, Magua will eat his heart

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u/PM_me_your_fantasyz Sep 26 '22

That has to be the most unique expression of /r/GrandpaJoeHate I have seen.

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u/CriscoCamping Sep 25 '22

Agree, with stoicism mixed in.

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u/Badbobbread Sep 25 '22

I remember seeing an interview with Wes where he said he didn't play Magua as a bad guy. Masterful performance.

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u/OA12T2 Sep 25 '22

Why does Magua hate the grey hair?

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

It's explained by Magua that Munro led an attack on his village where his children were killed and he was taken prisoner. His wife thought he was dead and remarried. So he lost everything and everyone he loved and wants revenge on Munro.

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u/OA12T2 Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

I know - it’s a line from the movie when they are in the forest and the French guy asks him that. The way the frenchmen says it is funny and that lines always stuck w me.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

Ah, thanks. I forgot Montcalm literally asks him that in the scene where he explains his backstory.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

Grey Hair, know before you die that I will wipe your seed from the face of the earth.

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u/FunnyItWorkedLastTim Sep 25 '22

That was some gangster shit.

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u/ImBonRurgundy Sep 25 '22

He really hated doing that. His dream was to kill the girls in front of Munro so he would know for sure his seed would no longer live. Had to satisfy him with killing Munro and just telling him that.

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u/Stonewalled89 Sep 25 '22 Take My Energy

Great film. The final 10 minutes are absolutely incredible

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u/OffendedByMyInnuendo Sep 25 '22

Trevor Jones and Randy Edelman were on their A-game, but Dougie MacLean knocked it out of the park with Promentory.

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u/senseofphysics Sep 25 '22

Dougie MacLean did The Gael which is the original version of the song. Trevor Jones did Promentory which is directly based from The Gael. It has a Gaelic, Celtic vibe of course.

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u/thesequimkid Sep 25 '22

The Gael/Promentory is one of the best parts of the ending.

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u/FortunateInsanity Sep 25 '22

That scene was shot at Chimney Rock, NC on a trail that is now closed. It is one of my wife’s favorite movies and I was able to surprise her with a hike on that trail before it was closed for our anniversary. It was awesome when she slowly began to recognize where we were from the movie.

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u/einarfridgeirs Sep 25 '22

Why was it closed? Did it somehow become more dangerous?

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u/FortunateInsanity Sep 25 '22

The park was privately owned when the trail was open. When the state park service took over they closed the trail saying it was too dangerous.

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u/EnnWhyCee Sep 25 '22 Wholesome

Indians kept throwing white women off that ledge

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u/boston_shua Sep 25 '22

Haha you win today

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u/STUFF416 Sep 25 '22

Pretty sure she yeeted herself off that ledge.

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u/RyuNoKami Sep 25 '22

Yea but that's the movie.

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u/Thick-Incident2506 Sep 25 '22

Eventually it would get filled up and ruin the view.

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u/ImBonRurgundy Sep 25 '22

Did you murder her boyfriend then offer her your bloody hand before she jumped off the cliff?

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

And with virtually no dialogue either. All visual.

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u/ClassiFried86 Sep 25 '22

That score though. Easily one of the top 5 movie scores of all time.

"Stay alive. I will find you!"

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u/DrPeterR Sep 25 '22

Promontory

All time fav bit of score

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u/Friendcherisher Sep 25 '22

It is based on "The Gael' by Dougie MacLean.

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u/GameOfScones_ Sep 25 '22

My namesake and I’m convinced has the closest thing to a perfect soul in music. One listen to Caledonia and no matter where a Scot is in the world, they are transported back to the highlands in their heart.

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u/DanMcE Sep 25 '22

Absolutely love that tune.

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u/chakan2 Sep 25 '22

The original is interesting, but doesn't hold a flame to the orchestral version. Promatory is simply epic.

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u/ThePiperMan Sep 25 '22

The last 10 minutes of Meet Joe Black is the closest I can think of. Promontory is sick AF

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u/KatAtWork Sep 25 '22

Woo boy, I just got chills.

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u/primacord Sep 25 '22

Its been 30 years & it still gives me goosebumps every time I hear the main theme.

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u/anonyfool Sep 25 '22

Daniel Day Lewis just kills in this role. Orlando Bloom has the same second sort of line in Carnival Row and I just had to laugh it's just corny with him.

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u/LupeDyCazari Sep 25 '22

Daniel Day Lewis kills it in every role. There's a reason why he is widely regarded as his generation's greatest actor.

Ehhh, although I do like Orlando Bloom in the extended version of Kingdom of Heaven, the man's just a pretty face when compared to Daniel Day Lewis. The last one has the looks and the TALENT.

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u/Tedurur Sep 25 '22

Is there any role that DDL doesn't kill?

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u/1987-2074 Sep 25 '22

DDL does not kill in Lincoln. Which is in stark contrast to Gangs of New York where he is killing throughout the film.

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u/maybeCheri Sep 25 '22

This is brings back all the intensity of the movie. Love love love it. Went to North Caroline and hiked that park. Amazing views.

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u/jambo_1983 Sep 25 '22

“Dooooooo do do doooo do do do doooooooo”

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u/thx1138- Sep 25 '22

I read the title of this post and the music immediately started playing in my head

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u/HortonHearsTheWho Sep 25 '22

Our friends used that at their wedding. Fortunately the ceremony (and subsequent marriage) had a lot less bloodletting

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u/AlmightyRuler Sep 25 '22

According to Dothraki traditions...

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u/Interesting_Soil2 Sep 25 '22

Michael Mann is good is with these scenes. Miami Vice had some good extended scenes with minimal dialog.

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u/CantFindMyWallet Sep 25 '22

The first ten minutes of Thief has almost no dialogue and it's absolutely breathtaking. Seriously, to anyone who reads this comment, go on Amazon Prime now and watch the first ten minutes of Thief. You'll be blown away. (then watch the rest of the movie because it fucking rules)

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u/pantstoaknifefight2 Sep 25 '22

He's a master of visual storytelling. But my favorite bit in Thief is the long dinner scene with Caan and Tuesday Weld. Killer dialogue!

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u/HeBoughtALot Sep 25 '22

Tangerine Dream won a Razzy award for worst score for Thief. Razzies are stupid. The music is awesome.

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u/CantFindMyWallet Sep 25 '22

Could not agree with you more

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u/TheMongoose101 Sep 25 '22

The ending when the song “auto rock” kicks in and it’s a few minutes of wrap up is one of my favorite movie scenes.

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u/Obversa Sep 25 '22

If you're interested, Michael Mann is currently filming Ferrari in Italy, with Adam Driver (Star Wars, Marriage Story) as Enzo Ferrari; Penélope Cruz as Enzo Ferrari's wife, Laura Ferrari; and Shailene Woodley as Enzo's mistress and baby momma, Lina Lardi.

Patrick Dempsey (Doctor McDreamy) is also co-starring in the film alongside Driver.

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u/Fcivish4 Sep 25 '22

Thats because the final 10 minutes also play Promentory. The best track on the OST and one of the best original scores in movie history.

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u/TormentedThoughtsToo Sep 25 '22

From the stake burning to the final shot might be pound for pound the best film sequence in cinema.

Period.

The music, the landscape.

As good as anything from any great movie you can think of. Godfather, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings.

You watch this and you understand why movies exist.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Every decision they make is perfect too. Like they could have had a prolonged fight scene but they were basically making a music video and it was much more effective to have the old man just easily dismantle Magua with the ultimate anti son of a bitch stick.

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u/One_red_shoe Sep 25 '22

anti son of a bitch stick

I will forever refer to it thusly.

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u/jakopappi Sep 25 '22

That whole scene ending on the promontory was superbly done. I'm haunted occasionally by the look on Alice's face. The fight on top, all of it just cut and choreographed amazingly. Wes Studi was excellent the whole way through.

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u/outerworldLV Sep 25 '22

And how many of us own the movie, the dvd, and vhs ( just in case ), have it recorded just because, bought the soundtrack, and will still watch it every freakin time its on !!??

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u/gloryday23 Sep 25 '22

For my money, it is the greatest chase scene in cinema history, whether it be a car chase, on foot, planes, boats, whatever, this is the best one.

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u/staffsargent Sep 25 '22

When I think of incredible movie scenes, the ending of Last of the Mohicans is at the top of my list. I can hear the music in my head now.

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u/tta2013 Sep 25 '22

Ending makes me tear up. Every time.

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u/lkshis Sep 25 '22

I have watched the ending repeatedly.

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u/Adventurous-Dish-485 Sep 25 '22

Now I wanna watch that movie today

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u/CookbooksRUs Sep 25 '22

I spent that movie wondering where Hawkeye was getting his shampoo and conditioner.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

I remember when it came out, critics were joking how his and Cora's kids would have the most amazing hair.

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u/MaybeLaterMom Sep 25 '22

Probably animal fat, that was the norm then.

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u/Som12H8 Sep 25 '22

Chingachgook: The frontier moves with the sun and pushes the Red Man of these wilderness forests in front of it until one day there will be nowhere left. Then our race will be no more, or be not us.

Hawkeye: That is my father's sadness talking.

Chingachgook: No, it is true. The frontier place is for people like my white son and his woman and their children. And one day there will be no more frontier. And men like you will go too, like the Mohicans. And new people will come, work, struggle. Some will make their life. But once, we were here.

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u/22Shug22 Sep 25 '22 Wholesome

The musical score of this movie may be a GOAT candidate.

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u/elizawatts Sep 25 '22 Gold

Trevor Jones!!! It’s a truly incredible piece of music. I recommend checking out the documentary ‘Score’ with turned up speakers if you’re interested in motion picture scores!

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u/DortDrueben Sep 25 '22

I can already hear the fiddle and drum. It's gonna be in my head the rest of the day. I ain't even mad.

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u/bonemot Sep 25 '22

Been listening to it this morning...https://youtu.be/9tjdswqGGVg

So good!

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u/ApprehensiveDamage83 Sep 25 '22

Am a truck driver and will play the soundtrack once a month. Absolutely the best! Especially if I’m in the Carolina’s.

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u/CodenameBear Sep 25 '22

LOVE the scenes shot in the Chimney Rock area

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u/guedoankan Sep 25 '22

Damn, so I've had a crush on Alice for 30 years.

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u/SFLurkyWanderer Sep 25 '22

Actress plays a queen in the Witcher

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u/jungl3j1m Sep 25 '22

And a witch in Game of Thrones.

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u/HortonHearsTheWho Sep 25 '22 Silver

And a throne in the Queen of Games

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u/_Darmok_and_Jalad_ Sep 25 '22

And they both fall from great heights

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u/haley_joel_osteen Sep 25 '22

Same here. Saw this in the theater and thought she was incredibly beautiful.

There was a fan-edit fake trailer made before Phantom Menace came out and there was a shot of her (from the close-up before she jumps) holding a lightsaber that looked amazing.

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u/roaddog Sep 25 '22

I was a featured extra on this film. The money I made paid for 2 years of college for me. I played both English and French soldiers. We were trained by Dale Dye in a 2 week bootcamp just outside of Asheville NC

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u/elemenno50 Sep 26 '22

Can you say which scenes you got to play?

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u/roaddog Sep 26 '22

In the opening scene I was a dead soldier, got to lay face down i n the mud for 3 days of shooting. Any scene with British or French soldiers I am most likely in. All of the battle scenes of course including inside the fort during the siege. I wore a prosthetic to be scalped during one shoot but it didn't make the final cut.

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u/quantum_guy Sep 26 '22

That sounds like an incredible experience. What was your favorite memory of the filming?

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u/tysontysontyson1 Sep 25 '22

One of my all time favorite movies. The promontory gives me goosebumps every single time.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

"America 1757.

It is the third year of war between France and England for possession of the continent.

Three men, the last of a vanishing people, are on the frontier west of the Hudson river."

Cue the music and the goosebumps.

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u/posts_while_naked Sep 25 '22

"Colonel Munro, I have known you as a gallant antagonist, without whose skillful defense the fort would have fallen long ago."

-General Marquis de Montcalm

A true french gentleman indeed. Would it kill today's military leaders to be this polite?

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u/boston_shua Sep 25 '22

Gen. Webb: Explain to the Major that he has little to fear from this General Marquis de Montcalm in the first place; and, therefore, scant need of a colonial militia in the second; because, the French haven't the nature for war. Their Latinate voluptuousness combines with their Gallic laziness and the result is they'd rather eat and make love with their faces than fight.

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u/kings2leadhat Sep 25 '22

Only later realized that he was referring to oral sex with the phrase: “Make love with their faces.”

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u/CultureOrbital Sep 25 '22

In the book Montcalm is a totally lying treacherous dick. Also polite tho!

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u/wicked_pissah Sep 25 '22

Is he not treacherous here? His and Magua's discussion indicated he knew Magua would ambush the British column.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

He knows exactly what Magua plans to do, he just turns a blind eye to it.

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u/CrunchyChewie Sep 25 '22

He was probably right though in that he would be facing the same soldiers in a future battle.

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u/kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf Sep 25 '22

I would go further than that and say he not only approves of it, but suggests it. Magua asks if the British will keep their terms, and Montcalm says no, he fears he will have to fight them again, but he cannot break the terms and "sully the lilies of France" by acting dishonorable. To me it's pretty clear that he's saying he won't do it, but if someone else was to do it, it would be OK with him.

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u/WornInShoes Sep 25 '22 Silver Helpful

The way the music swells as Nathaniel, Chingachook and Uncas run up the mountain in pursuit of the Munro sister is easily the best thing ever put to celluloid

The final ten minutes of this film is breathtaking, and not just the cinematography

I love this film so much

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u/darrellbear Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Jodhi May played the younger sister, she was about 17 at the time. I always wished they'd given her more to do in the movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodhi_May

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u/imwiththeband1 Sep 25 '22

Not to mention Queen Calanthe in the Witcher! And she was great in it.

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u/jungl3j1m Sep 25 '22

When she was listed in the credits on Game of Thrones, I couldn’t believe that’s who the witch was.

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u/wineandhugs Sep 25 '22

She was in The Witcher as well.

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u/wpnw Sep 25 '22

Holy shit, she was Calanthe?! Never would have made that connection in a million years.

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u/karensPA Sep 25 '22

It’s truly astonishing how much she does with so little in the film, though! She’s the naive innocent little sister, the love between her and Uncas is like three intense looks but you totally believe it, by the time he dies I always felt like her mind just snapped from all the horror she’s witnessed and she simply doesn’t want to live. She just turns away and…LOVE THIS MOVIE.

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u/Fr4gd0ll Sep 25 '22

I believe they did and her mother made a stink so they cut a lot of it.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

I've seen the script and apparently she and Uncas were supposed to have a love scene in the cave. Mom understandably wasn't for her underage daughter doing that.

I found it quite amusing how she later turned up in "Game of Thrones" and played Maggie the Frog like she just picked up the sexy witch costume at Spencer's Gifts.

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u/wesleyhasareddit Sep 25 '22

Something about the last ten minutes is just so intense and raw, the musical score during it really can’t be understated for being the driving force of it (as countless here have also said)

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u/ksuchewie Sep 25 '22

8:30 The look of, "You've done messed up A-A-RON!"

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u/Adventurous-Dish-485 Sep 25 '22

So do I! I just clicked your link- sobbing now. I really wanted both sisters to have that love. Alice turned out to be a badass in the end

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u/DortDrueben Sep 25 '22

Early development of Lord of the Rings, they discussed Daniel Day-Lewis as Aragorn.

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u/AtariASARI Sep 25 '22

No need to put him against Viggo, who was perfect, but it would not have been a mistake to cast Daniel.

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u/we_are_sex_bobomb Sep 25 '22

It’s interesting to think how different it would’ve been; DDL probably would’ve played him closer to the book; Viggo really played an atypical masculine hero, an introvert with some almost maternal qualities. I think his performance actually made him a better character than Tolkien wrote, even if that’s sacrilege.

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u/AtariASARI Sep 25 '22

You don't get to know Aragorn in the books, that's just facts. You come to love him in the movies.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Aragorn in the books literally whips out Narsil the first time he meets the hobbits and essentially says hi it's me Aragorn, rightful king of Gondor, Isildur's heir, I am a fucking legend, this broken sword here literally cut the ring of power from Sauron's hand.

He's almost cartoonishly badass in the books but yeah I think him having an actual character arc that we actually see is sort of an inevitable change that had to happen with an adaptation.

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u/FloridaGatorMan Sep 25 '22

Not to add another layer but I imagine Jackson gave quite a bit of guidance into what he was looking for in Aragorn in the movies. I think he would have given the same guidance to DDL, which could have been very interesting. It feels like Aragorn was intended to be somewhat intimidating to begin and over time he comes more paternal and caring. I think DDL would have nailed the intimidating but I think Viggo absolutely nailed the part of the character that connects better with the audience.

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u/Postingatthismoment Sep 25 '22

Yeah, Viggo was perfect, but Daniel Day Lewis...that would have been an excellent choice, too. I can't think of anyone else off-hand...

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u/AtariASARI Sep 25 '22

Well they were throwing around keanu, I think that would have been a mistake...

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u/ridemore82 Sep 25 '22

At least once every holiday shopping season I grabbed my wife’s shoulders before she heads out to shop I say “whatever you do, you stay alive! Stay alive! I WILL find you.”

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u/jamesroberts7777 Sep 25 '22

Watched this in theaters when it first came out… went with my mom and step dad, then again with my dad, with a friends family, then another friends family, then a cousins birthday…. I had to see it maybe 6-8 times in theaters and wasn’t bored once

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u/peppermintvalet Sep 25 '22

Wes Studi is a criminally underrated actor.

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u/Isteppedinpoopy Sep 25 '22

He’s terribly mysterious

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u/Onionbot3000 Sep 25 '22

I loved him as the Sphinx lol that movie is bonkers in the best way.

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u/BlackWidow1414 Sep 25 '22

Wes Studi is one of those actors who, if I see he's in a movie, I don't need to know anything else about the movie, I'm just watching it.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

I always like it when he shows up in a non-Indian role. Like leading the mercenaries in "Deep Rising." He's got major screen presence.

Mann thankfully used him again in such a role in "Heat."

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u/mainvolume Sep 25 '22

Hahaha, that scene where he finally gives Treat Williams a gun. Spent the whole movie denying the guy a weapon but finally, in that hallways of blood and guts with metal being bent...fuck it, take that gun and help.

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u/Appropiate_Ad7505 Sep 25 '22

Magua !!!

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u/rockstarcamisole Sep 25 '22

Magua’s heart is twisted!

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u/Appropiate_Ad7505 Sep 25 '22

When the gray hair is dead, Magua will eat his heart !

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

Magua speaks in the third person for some reason.

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u/Appropiate_Ad7505 Sep 25 '22

Magua understands that the white man is a dog to his women. When they are tired, he puts down his tomahawk to feed their laziness.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

"Magua says he understands English very well."

There's actually an implied insult on that line, as Magua is basically saying, "I understand everything you're saying, but you don't know anything I'm saying. Idiot."

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u/HortonHearsTheWho Sep 25 '22

Magua is gettin upset!

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u/Jackieirish Sep 25 '22

The fact that Mann has only been nominated one time each for best director by AMPAS and BAFTA is an ugly, ugly embarrassment for them.

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u/RexBanner1886 Sep 25 '22

Mohicans often gestures at the possibility of a shared future, and here we see the death of that dream play in miniature. Several generations’ worth of hurt, anger, and confusion pass between Chingachgook and Magua as they silently lock eyes and the fatal blow is delivered. They understand, in that moment, they were never meant to be enemies.

I don't like this bit. It smacks of the writer trying to be so right on that he takes away the Native characters' agency. Chingachgook isn't thinking 'Look Magua, look at what the white man has done to us!', he's thinking 'I'm going to kill you for killing my son'.

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u/HortonHearsTheWho Sep 25 '22

I thought the same. It’s trying to overlay a modern sensibility on these characters while ignoring the fact that they had their own allegiances, aims, etc.

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u/AmericanJelly Sep 25 '22

I thought that too. But I was also thinking, in his eulogy to Uncas, when you can hear his heart breaking, and he says "and tell death to come for me with swift wings. For they are all there, all but I, Chingachgook, last of the Mohicans." He is well aware that his world is vanishing. As a Huron, Magua would have been his sworn lifelong enemy and he would want to kill him even if he hadn't just killed Uncas. But I think the poignant irony in the killing does exist nonetheless. Maybe also reflected in the entire French and Indian war, where both European antagonists used the fuel of tribal enmity for their own ends.

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u/Youcantossthisout Sep 25 '22

“There is a war on. How is it you are heading west?”

“Well, we face north and real subtle-like turn left.”

I watch this movie every fall with my wife. We met in college and this is the first movie we saw in a theater together. It’s a masterpiece.

It also spawned my interest in shooting muzzleloading firearms. My wife eventually picked up the hobby too and we shoot in archery and period muzzleloader competitions a few times a year. We’ve passed both hobbies on to my daughters as well. What an appreciation it gives you for struggle.

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u/Separate-Aspect-2704 Sep 25 '22

That is my favorite quote from the movie.

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u/Cadoan Sep 25 '22

There is a line that's not in some cuts of the film that I love. When they are escaping the Huron war party after surrendering the fort, they are paddling away in war canoes and being chased by more Huron. Major Duncan points his pistol at Nathaniel and Nathaniel quips "Nothing better to do in the lake today Major?"

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u/Totalretcon Sep 25 '22

It also spawned my interest in shooting muzzleloading firearms.

Pretty sure it's the reason the entire industry exists lol

Go hunting with a flintlock muzzleloader and avoid scaring the game because you can't help running down the trails challenge any % (impossible)

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u/neverdoneneverready Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 26 '22

Duncan. You are a man with a few admirable qualities but taken as a whole I was wrong to think so highly of you. Best insult ever.

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u/karensPA Sep 26 '22

She annihilated him there…and he knows she’s right, then he ends up redeeming himself by sacrificing himself for them…The translation scene is fantastic, he’s not the center of the dialogue at all, he’s just interpreting, but if you watch him you can see him making up his mind that he’s going to trade himself for them, because he knows she loves Hawkeye and will never love him, so this is the best thing he can do for her. All with basically no dialogue. And then Hawkeye does the best thing he can for him and kills him with one shot. Absolutely perfect filmmaking. I wish I could see it in a theater…

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u/LurkmasterP Sep 26 '22

I rarely see much talk about this scene, but it's like a filmmaking clinic.

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u/YesIAmRumHam Sep 25 '22

This is my favourite film of all time. The final couple of scenes are amazing.

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u/Cptnmikey Sep 25 '22

One of the rare times I feel the movie was definitely better than the book.

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u/SanguineOptimist Sep 25 '22

The only thing I remember about the book is how it constantly described how Uncus was physically exquisite and mega cut.

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u/Postingatthismoment Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Well, they certainly made sure that was true in the movie as well!

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

The book, frankly, isn't that great.

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u/flashmedallion Sep 25 '22

In that matter of intellect, the difference between a Cooper Indian and the Indian that stands in front of the cigar-shop is not spacious. 

God I love Mark Twain

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

Oh hell yes, I forgot all about that. Saying it should be called "The Broken Twig Series" is pure Twain.

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u/KatAtWork Sep 25 '22

Ok, I feel better now. I tried to read it and... just lost interest.

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u/kjhwkejhkhdsfkjhsdkf Sep 25 '22

Yeah, I loved the movie so much I decided to read the book. I really had to force myself to finish it. There are a lot of books that I read as a teen that I revisited as an adult to get a different perspective, that wasn't one of them.

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u/q345oiawerg Sep 25 '22

Such a great movie.

Pretty high up on my wishlist of films to have in 4K and Dolby Atmos, too.

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u/Jeffery_C_Wheaties Sep 25 '22

That score and sounds in atmos would be borderline orgasmic.

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u/Timmy24000 Sep 25 '22

Most of it was filmed in western North Carolina. What a beautiful place

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u/mischiefmanaged31678 Sep 25 '22

The score. Oof. Amazing. Just thinking about the chirping violin as they run across the cliff side gives me goosebumps.

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u/Servilefunctions218 Sep 25 '22

Thank you Morgan Creek Productions for some of the best movies from the mid 90’s!👏

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u/chromehound47 Sep 25 '22

release it in 4K you cowards

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u/WerthlessB Sep 25 '22

"Magua say...understand English very well." I love how his response was deliberately ambiguous as to mean English as a language or a people.

I love this movie and it is damn near perfect IMHO in terms of movie making. The cinematography, the dialogue, the cast, the soundtrack is all just so breathtakingly gorgeous.

After all these years though and countless viewings I still need to look away for a few seconds during the fight between Uncas and Magua. It's somehow gruesome, raw, and graphic even though it's not particularly "gory".

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u/djrstar Sep 25 '22

I know this comment isn't likely to be seen by many, but Ben Stiller's last of the Mohicans skit was one of his best. If you appreciate good comedy, you will enjoy this.

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u/Tomgar Sep 26 '22

I miss these kind of epic adventure films with all their romance and drama and attention-to-detail and grand themes. I feel like they've died a death since Lord of the Rings. Mohicans was an all-time classic and Michael Mann is a genius.

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u/SmoothTownsWorstest Sep 25 '22

A bunch of my cousins were in that movie. They all had to get Mohawks for filming and a fun part for us was picking them out in the background or counting how many times one would die lol. My one cousin died like 3 or 4 times in that movie

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u/Xeit1001 Sep 25 '22

Fucking Magua. I LOVE LOVE LOVE this film! The battle scene at the end. Uncas. Her sacrifice. FUCKING MAGUA. Wes Studi is a National TREASURE. Holy shit what A BEAUTIFUL FUCKING MOVIE.

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u/phonologotron Sep 25 '22

Well you face the north and then real subtle like you turn left.

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u/Mst3Kgf Sep 25 '22

I ain't your scout and I ain't in no damn militia.

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u/mr_ji Sep 25 '22

In case your aim's any better than your judgement

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u/Rich_Librarian_7758 Sep 25 '22

His sarcasm is so perfect

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u/keddesh Sep 25 '22

I remember my mom watching this one probably for as long as she had the rental, back to back. I was young then, but it was my favorite film right along with dances with wolves for a long time. I was a really weird little kid

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u/Devonai Sep 25 '22

Another reason this movie stands out for me is that on the night they reach Fort William Henry, you can clearly see the constellations Scorpius and Sagittarius in the sky. So rarely in movies are constellations properly shown.

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u/HardcorePhonography Sep 25 '22

Michael Mann could make The Dark Tower series and Blood Meridian and they'd both be awesome.

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u/_Pliny_ Sep 25 '22

Sometimes refer to my kid as “my white son.”

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u/KaijuDirectorOO7 Sep 25 '22

And to think… there’s probably a THREE HOUR EDIT somewhere in Michael Mann’s archives.

Look, if he can remake a 90 minute bank robbery TV pilot into a three hour heist thriller, I can only imagine how epic a 3-hour Mohicans movie can be.

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u/pericles123 Sep 25 '22

one of my all time favs for sure

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u/WorldofStrangers Sep 25 '22

I saw this last month in a showing at the actual Fort William Henry. During all the fight scenes, the reenactors ran around shooting muskets and set off the cannons and smoke bombs. It was so cool.

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u/TheClayroo Sep 25 '22

While My Left Foot brought DDL to the spotlight, Last of the Mohicans told Hollywood the greatest actor of our time was here. I wish we got to see more of him but I understand why he was so selective. It's like the amazing Chinese food place by me that refuses to use the delivery apps and you have to call directly. I don't get it as often but when I do, goddamn, give it an Oscar.

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u/NinjerTartle Sep 25 '22

Might be my favourite film, tbh. I've lost count of how many times I've watched it. It's over 30, that much I know.

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u/mgoflash Sep 25 '22

It’s one of those that if you come across it you have to watch at least 10 minutes. Very often longer depending on at what point you catch it.

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u/Separate_Land_5867 Sep 25 '22

I live close to where this story took place and the history of early America here is very interesting

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