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Off duty police officer pulls gun on gas station patron he suspects of shoplifting, turns out he was dead wrong. 🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​

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u/laythor Aug 12 '22 Silver Gold Wholesome All-Seeing Upvote Take My Energy To The Stars FeelsBatman

A key part of de-escalation is not starting an interaction with your gun drawn when nothing had warranted deadly force to that point.

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u/Brad_Brace Aug 12 '22

Also, was that a candy bar? Did he pull a gun on a guy he thought had stolen a candy bar!?

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u/JustAbicuspidRoot Aug 12 '22

Worse, Mentos.

Gotta protect those fresh-makers at the cost of as many human lives as necessary.

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u/Firmod5 Aug 12 '22 Table Slap

Worst Mentos commercial ever.

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u/esquilax Aug 12 '22 Silver Wholesome

The Death-Maker ™

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u/ADHD_Supernova Aug 12 '22 Take My Energy

*Cops was filmed before a live audience.

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u/10strip Aug 12 '22

Afterward, the audience was significantly less "live."

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u/brazzyxo Aug 12 '22 Buff Doge

“Do you know who I am” is what he says before he pulls his gun out on innocent people

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u/Vargavintern Aug 12 '22 Table Slap

Blast from the past:

https://youtu.be/sdnJxDmJNmA

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u/devnullius Aug 12 '22

Yeah, that sugar rush always gets to me too!

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u/Phantereal Aug 12 '22

He could've put them in a bottle of coke and thrown it at the cop like a molotov cocktail. That would've absolutely required deadly force. /s

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u/PM_ME_UR_CATS_TITS Aug 12 '22

See you in hell candy boys!

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u/KingZarkon Aug 12 '22

A Mentosov cocktail, if you will.

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u/Sunstorm84 Aug 12 '22

Mentosov coketail

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u/ThatDudeShadowK Aug 12 '22 Silver

He's an american cop, you can't expect him to value human life over property

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u/TurkeyLerg Aug 12 '22 Rocket Like

It's really sickening to hear this douche saying "You know who I am, right?" to the clerk after his ridiculous gun-bullying cop stunt over some damn candy. As if his identity is an entitlement to act that way.

I've had a relative's husband who was a detective bragging to me at a family dinner about his "realm of influence" throughout certain counties. Like he was saying if I needed to get something done, these are the areas where he can influence people with his mighty cop power. Just a nonstop douche life of power tripping with these bastards.

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u/balofchez Aug 12 '22

"You know who I am, right?"

"Yeah, we went to high school together for a couple years before you dropped out and became a cop"

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u/snowyjavaman Aug 13 '22

That's what got me too. Just confirms to me the dumbass was just power-tripping. Like calm dawn Dudley Do-wrong. Geezus.

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u/TheSeventhAnimorph Aug 13 '22

Seemed more like a threat than anything else; like there was an implication of "You know who I am, right? Don't tell anyone this happened or you'll regret it."

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u/serpentofnumbers Aug 13 '22

lol, that reminds me of that scene from The Sarah Silverman Show where the cop comes up to her car window and says "Do you know why I'm here?"

"Because you made all C's in high school?"

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u/Comprehensive-Ad8120 Aug 12 '22

Reply should have been Yeah a walking douchebag with a badge.

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u/sadacal Aug 12 '22

The clerk would be dead then.

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u/molotov_cockteaze Aug 12 '22

I dated a guy whose dad was a police lieutenant when I was much younger, and he gave me what he called a “get out of jail free card.” This was basically his “business card” and told me if I ever got stopped for anything I should hand it with my license.

I was under 21 at the time and a cop did pull me over late one night. I had had one drink, wasn’t drunk or buzzed but it’s zero tolerance if you’re under 21 and driving. Very nervously did the above and immediately the cop handed me back my info and told me to have a good night. It was well over a decade ago but I still feel scummy about it. Fuck the police.

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u/TurkeyLerg Aug 12 '22

Yep that's what they call "professional courtesy" and it's the corrupt practice of cops giving each other and their families free passes to break the law with no consequence. A disgusting symptom of their all-too-common mentality of being "above the law" while being employed to enforce it.

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u/Nix-7c0 Aug 12 '22

They don't attend the popular and widespread "killology" seminars to learn how to be reasonable

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u/ThanksForTheF-Shack Aug 12 '22

Do you know who the latest kill expert teaching our police is? War criminal and murderer Eddie Gallagher.

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u/Nix-7c0 Aug 12 '22

How does he compare the to man who started "Killology," who is named (no joke) Officer Grossman

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u/ThanksForTheF-Shack Aug 12 '22

Eddie Gallagher was such a murdering psychopath that his Navy SEAL mates were terrified of him, which is saying a lot considering the environment they are in. His squadmates would fire warning shots at civilians to try and get them to leave because if they didn't, the Seals knew that Gallagher would murder them. He used the cover of war to kill indiscriminately. He killed young girls, old men, it didn't matter. Going to war was a sport for him to kill people. And now he is teaching police! Very cool and normal country we have.

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u/Nix-7c0 Aug 12 '22

Oh shit, this is the guy from that "The Line" podcast where it seems he just straight up executed some kid restrained to their jeep? What the fuck does his experience have to do with policing?

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u/Luminous_Artifact Aug 12 '22

Yes, it's the guy who got away with murdering a 17-year-old prisoner of war.

Gallagher was accused of multiple offenses during his final deployment to Iraq and during the Battle for Mosul. The most prominent accusation and the best-attested to was the murder of a prisoner of war, a war crime. Khaled Jamal Abdullah, a captured 17-year-old fighter of the Islamic State, was being treated by a medic. According to two SEAL witnesses, Gallagher said over the radio "he's mine" and walked up to the medic and Abdullah, and without saying a word allegedly killed Abdullah by stabbing him with his hunting knife. Gallagher and his commanding officer, Lieutenant Jake Portier, then posed for photographs of them standing over the body with some other nearby SEALs. Gallagher then text messaged a friend in California a picture of himself holding the dead captive's (ISIS) head by the hair with the explanation "Good story behind this, got him with my hunting knife.”

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On June 20, 2019, during Gallagher's trial, one of the platoon medics from Gallagher's team testifying as a prosecution witness said that although Gallagher did stab the ISIS fighter, he did not actually kill him. The medic, Special Operator First Class Corey Scott who testified under an immunity agreement, testified that he himself had killed the wounded prisoner by covering his breathing tube and asphyxiating him. Scott called it a "mercy killing" and argued that the victim would have been tortured by Iraqi personnel due to his connection to the Islamic State.

So he got away with it only because somebody decided to lie for him in the end.

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u/TempEmbarassedComfee Aug 12 '22

Wow not only that but they gave the medic immunity to get him to testify so they can't go after the medic for the killing now either.

They were also looking to get a pardon from Trump should he be convicted anyway. What a bunch of criminals.

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u/pvtshoebox Aug 12 '22

So sad.

Might as well say “We were planning to knowingly send you to a torture crew. That’s fucked up, right? So let’s just do the governable thing of murdering surrendered and wounded locals.

Are we the baddies!”

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u/nooneknowswerealldog Aug 12 '22

he just straight up executed some kid restrained to their jeep? What the fuck does his experience have to do with policing?

You answered your question with the sentence above it.

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u/SungamCorben Aug 12 '22 Wholesome

You know how dangerous a candy bar can be in a skilled assassin's hand?

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u/Veejayy93 Aug 12 '22

Depends on if it has peanuts

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u/theman-dalorian Aug 12 '22

Cop pulls a gun on a whim when nervous and tells people to remain calm.

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u/Telepornographer Aug 12 '22 Helpful Starry Masterpiece Golden Snoo Award

I hate how average, untrained people just going about life are expected to be calm and collected when a gun is drawn on them.

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u/SchurkjeBoefje Aug 12 '22 Helpful Wholesome I'll Drink to That

American police is constantly defended by a bizarre 180 degree swap in responsibilities.

The person with the (supposed) training, the law on their side, and the damn gun in their hands is allowed to be nervous, scared, panicked, pull triggers in that state of mind, and be absolved for it.

The random ass untrained, unsuspecting, unarmed civilian is expected to stay calm, collected, and follow every command no matter how conflicting; if the cop gets scared (for any goddamn ol' reason) and shoots the civilian, they'll consider it the civilian's own fault.

Insanity.

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u/post_talone420 Aug 13 '22

The person with the (supposed) training, the law on their side, and the damn gun in their hands is allowed to be nervous, scared, panicked, pull triggers in that state of mind, and be absolved for it.

Also if you look at the reason that's given when they shoot someone without reason, it's always "the officer FELT threatened," even when it's not true. Officers are the biggest "don't hurt my feelings," crowd

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u/halfacrum Aug 13 '22

just remember kids there have been a few cases where cops were killed in self-defense and the peeps who've done it were let off, now any retaliatory actions taken after the fact are totally what's the word... unrelated to said prior cases.

still better 1 living civilian than the alternative.

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u/phreek-hyperbole Aug 13 '22

follow every command no matter how conflicting

Like when there's a whole crowd of police screaming commands and you can tell the person is confused af

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u/Mr-Fleshcage Aug 13 '22

Daniel shaver intensifies

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u/gojirra Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

Drawn on them by an un-uniformed psychopath that is clearly out of their minds at that.

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u/nevvertheless Aug 12 '22

Agreed. Even if he did shoplift, it doesn’t warrant the use of deadly force. I don’t understand why people don’t understand this; police officer or not.

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u/Drexelhand Aug 12 '22

I don’t understand why people don’t understand this

just anecdotally, number of blue lives matter punisher skulls i've seen may indicate there's a lot more illiterate power fantasy stupid dipshits among us.

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u/a_different-user Aug 12 '22

power, club/comradery/brotherhood, gun, $35-45k starter salary, less laws apply to you, minimum education requirements. this career field is automatically going to attract a certain crowd.

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u/ShadowPouncer Aug 12 '22

Worse, there are plenty of documented cases of police academies and police departments that actively discourage people who are 'too smart'.

There's automatically attracting a certain crowd... And there's actively selecting for that crowd and doing your best to avoid anyone outside of it.

We are so far from having a remotely healthy law enforcement culture in this country.

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u/whiskey_mike186 Aug 12 '22

There was actually a scene from The Punisher comic book series, where Castle saw a police officer using his skull logo and threatened him with violence not to use it again.

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u/eightyHD- Aug 12 '22 Silver

My 911 response:

Man dressed in ALL BLACK waving a gun!!! Send help!!!

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 14 '22 Silver

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u/some-someone Aug 12 '22

No wonder people have such little trust in American police.

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u/The_SCB_General Aug 13 '22

The entire system needs a complete overhaul. Police in this country have absolutely no accountability for their actions. Corrupt cops get away with so much simply because they're protected by other corrupt cops. Until the system is reworked, I predict faith in law enforcement will continue to dwindle.

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u/weerdbuttstuff Aug 12 '22

Some friends and I were victims of a home invasion/robbery when I was in my early 20's. We were drinking on a friend's porch in a decent part of town and two guys walking by pulled guns on us and forced us inside to rob us. One of our friends was walking back and saw them force us inside so he retreated and called 911. They hung up on him. We didn't have much so all they were able to get was our beer, some random shit like books and dvds, and something like 80 bucks. The noise was loud enough that the neighbors upstairs called 911 and they didn't hang up on them.

So the cops show up after the robbers left and took our statements. They told us it was our fault for being on a porch and drinking. Everyone was of age, no one was doing anything illegal, and we were being quiet but the cops were absolute shit heads to us; a bunch of kids who had just had loaded gun waved in our face.

As a group we took our concerns, specifically 911 hanging up on the first call, to a lawyer to see if there was something that could be done. The lawyer basically told us that we were all young, with no real roots in the area, and those things made us more vulnerable to be jammed up by the cops frequently, draining money and time that we didn't have at that point. He also implied that, if the cops saw fit, they could "find" drugs or evidence of more serious crimes at some point while they were jamming us up, effectively ruining our lives. So his suggestion, since no one got hurt and not a lot got taken, was to let it slide. So we did, because there was no effective recourse that wouldn't put us in more danger than the actual robbers did.

Cops don't prevent crime, they rarely solve crime, and aren't accountable to anyone.

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u/42DaisyPusher Aug 12 '22

This is why people want to defund the police.

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u/1lluminist Aug 12 '22

Would be interesting to see how many shootings and murders they've resolved VS caused

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u/Pillsbernie Aug 12 '22

Even then they're not going to show up until you've already been dead for an hour

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u/fireking99 Aug 12 '22

Happened to me! I got better....

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u/Elfhoe Aug 12 '22

Yeah, but then when the cops show up, they’ll just hear “black” and shoot the first black guy they see.

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u/truthemptypoint Aug 12 '22

Amazing... off duty... is this normal procedure that offduty goes on duty under these specific circumstances?

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u/MoarChzPlzzz Aug 12 '22

I mean many/most off duty LEOs carry concealed when off duty (and not at a disqualifying venue that prohibits otherwise legal conceal carrying or participating in a disqualifying activity like consuming alcohol)… buuuuut it’s officer’s discretion whether or not they choose to intervene when witnessing an illegal act in their presence, and depending on the severity of that illegal act/the level of danger posed to the public in the commission of said illegal act.

Drawing a firearm on a suspected Mentos bandit (even if he didn’t actually just pay for it) would definitely fall under the category… “atypical” I would say lol

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u/servohahn Aug 12 '22

and not at a disqualifying venue that prohibits otherwise legal conceal carrying or participating in a disqualifying activity like consuming alcohol

One chud I used to know became a cop and then he and his chud brother would go to bars and pick fights after getting drunk. He was armed. When he would start to lose a fight he started he'd pull his gun and threaten to arrest his victims. I don't know if he ever arrested anyone but man was that guy a huge piece of shit.

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u/Long_Educational Aug 12 '22

He could have killed or been killed and that is probably the thrill he was seeking along with the power trip.

Those are exactly the type of people that should not own firearms.

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u/lord_ma1cifer Aug 12 '22

Yet according to the federal government those assholes are A-OK to do exactly that but if you use medical marajuana then you are a danger to everyone around you so no legal fires for you. This country is a fucking joke and I can't wait for it to all go up in flames so we can hopefully create something better.

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u/SnooGuavas3712 Aug 12 '22

If he was drinking while carrying his worthless ass should be rotting in prison

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u/android24601 Aug 12 '22

Judge, jury, and executioner. You know who I am, right?

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u/Mrtowelie69 Aug 12 '22

Whys this guy walking around with his gun in his sweater. Do cops carry their firearms when they arent working?

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u/ramencents Aug 12 '22

Bro these guys shower with their gun.

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u/TangentiallyTango Aug 12 '22

Might not even be a joke. There was a documentary recently about a guy named Jack Idema who made his living conning people that he was a black ops CIA agent and an expert in counterterrorism. The exact sort of Super Soldier wannabe that nearly every piece of shit cop is.

Anyhow, he was a paranoid guy and his girlfriend said he actually had a shower gun and basically he'd have a panic attack and couldn't function without a weapon on him at all times.

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u/ramencents Aug 12 '22

We need to de stigma mental illness

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u/PaidRedditPoster Aug 12 '22

I don't shower with my gun that's absurd.

I have a separate gun in my shower.

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u/ParticularPenguins Aug 12 '22

What makes you think de-escalation is part of the standard police approach to a situation?

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u/cabelaciao Aug 12 '22

Announces he is a police officer, pulls gun instead of badge. Accuses man of stealing, tells him to leave instead of arresting him.

If there wasn’t video footage of this, he would be talking through his attorney about how he “felt threatened.”

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u/dexmonic Aug 12 '22

That's what I never understood, why the hell does he pull a gun on the guy and tell him to leave? Probably wants the rush of being a "good guy with a gun" without the frustration of having to professionally justify his behavior by actually arresting the guy.

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u/JaceTheWoodSculptor Aug 13 '22 Bravo!

Even if he did shoplift, what are you gonna do, shoot him over some gas station chocolate bar ? No wonder the US is fucked.

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u/deroidirt Aug 13 '22

Because he knows the second he pulls into the station with a guy who stole candy from a gas station he's going to be ripped up by his superior officers, the guy is going home and he's getting stuck on desk duty.

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u/Pika_Fox Aug 13 '22

Not to mention he drew slowly within arms reach.... Meaning he had no control over his weapon at any time and actively endangered himself and others by doing such.

If fight was triggered in the victim's fight or flight instinct, he would have gone for the arm. And would have been 100% in the right to do so, as the cop fucked up. And we would have had a completely different story.

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u/sirk6969 Aug 13 '22 Gold

Cops… Brave when its a nervous guy trying to get on about his day, too chicken shit to move on a armed psycho about to murder a class room full of kids. Police state.

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u/SavageAltruist Aug 13 '22

Yeah and then he says “you know who I am, right?” to the clerk like the clerk should have covered his dumbass by saying something. This idiot resorts to pulling a gun instead of politely asking a simple question to verify his assumption

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u/ReadDesperate543 Aug 13 '22

Someone please tell me this asshole got fired

I’m sure he didn’t because cops are protected way too much for how much they all suck.

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u/Cyber_Druid Aug 12 '22 Helpful All-Seeing Upvote

This man stealing candy, let me get my gun out.

Pulling out a gun, because you are confronting someone, in a situation that isn't life threatening should be a felony.

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u/cumshot_josh Aug 12 '22

The next thing out of that dudes mouth after the apology should have been asking for a name and badge number.

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u/imfreerightnow Aug 12 '22

He was scared shitless, as anyone would be. I’m sure he just wanted to get the hell out of there. Why would he even know that guy was a cop?

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u/KID_LIFE_CRISIS Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 20 '22 All-Seeing Upvote

Right ?

He didn't look like a cop. Someone could have shot and killed him thinking he was robbing the gas station.

Why are plain-clothed cops allowed? Some rando pulls a gun on people and starts barking orders? They're asking for unnecessary death

***edit-- this post is against violence you stupid fucks. suck my dick

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u/jedininjashark Aug 12 '22

I am very white and very privileged.
When I was 19 in college, while walking home from a bar with a beer in my hand, two guys drove their car up on to the sidewalk, jumped out and charged me.
I ran. When they caught me they beat me badly, I fought back.
When I woke up I found out they were ALE officers going after me because I was drinking underage. I was charged with felony assault on the officers and a bunch of other charges.
I had to go to jail on the weekends for half of fall semester.

I honestly cannot imagine being black and dealing with cops.

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u/boatsnprose Aug 13 '22

It's basically the same but, instead of beer, you have Black.

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u/LegoGal Aug 13 '22

Jail on weekends is not something I hear a lot in the Black community

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u/jedininjashark Aug 13 '22

I absolutely believe that. I thought it was weird too. Probably because I was white in a town where the major university I was enrolled was pretty much the only reason it was on the map.

I went to jail for 15 days straight until the semester started then weekends.

Most of the people there for the weekends were drunk drivers which I thought was interesting. We slept outside the cells in the main area and didn’t go to gen pop.

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u/SMG620 Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

If I'm not mistaken, "brandishing" a weapon can be a crime, right? Pulling a gun while not uniformed and not reasonably expecting violence, can go sideways so quickly.

This cop didn't even get a clean draw, what if the wrongly accused guy thought he was about to be shot by a non LEO and drew quicker than the cop?

Now I have to say, the guy at the counter was looking and acting super shady and I would have thought he lifted something too. For some strange reason, he turns around to deliberately stare down the cop as he enters the store and plucks whatever's on the counter so quick and into his pocket as the cashier turns away lol.

But the cop still shouldn't have drawn in that situation. No urgent violent threat, adjust your positioning and grip the gun without drawing as you question. If the guy escalates or reaches for a weapon, then I can see drawing.

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u/ErikkShone Aug 12 '22

It's also really cool that the cashier is in the line of fire if any shots were to be fired over some mentos. Let the dude step out, ask the cashier if he stole anything, then go confront him if you really need to.

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u/FDGKLRTC Aug 12 '22

Damn wtf that's insane, literal meatshield

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u/kjlwillycoyote Aug 12 '22

They won't even go after a single school shooter despite outnumbering him hundreds to one, what do you honestly expect from cowards?

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u/EZ-PEAS Aug 12 '22

Yep. Nineteen officers fired 200 rounds into a hostage situation that escalated from a stickup robbery.

There's a reason that many police departments have a do-not-chase policy. They work and avoid adrenaline-fueled shootouts like this that endanger everyone. Two innocents dead over some jewelery.

It's the mentality of cops and robbers vs. treating crime as a social problem with a social cost.

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u/TempEmbarassedComfee Aug 12 '22

I can't believe it's been almost 3 years since that happened. I distinctly remember that happening because of how awful it was handled.

It's quite sick how much we value property over human life. Who cares if 2 innocent people died, at least we protected property! /s

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u/NAbberman Aug 12 '22

Just to clarify, this is still apparently under investigation, which in of itself is a massive joke. Our system is a joke, 3 years and still no answers isn't justice.

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u/IThinkIKnowThings Aug 12 '22

But that kills all the fun of larping the part of a badass action movie star.

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u/ElevenBurnie Aug 12 '22

Should be mandatory prison time. The people enforcing law should be held to a HIGHER standard than those who do not.

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u/TwisBeats Aug 12 '22

Link to article here

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u/[deleted] Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 22 '22 Silver

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u/Vance_Refrigerati0n Aug 13 '22

With GREATER charges. It’s worse when a misuse of power comes from those who are EXPECTED (theoretically) to wield it responsibly. An abuse of power in this case is more egregious, and therefore warrants greater repercussions, imo.

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u/Ironicfirstname Aug 13 '22

(At least in Texas) if a CDL driver gets any driving infraction or ticket, the fine is DOUBLED simply because they have a CDL. They do not have to be in an 18-wheeler or a vehicle that requires a CDL. If you have the CDL, even if you're driving your personal vehicle, the ticket is doubled because 'you should know better'.... why this isn't applied to cops is beyond logical comprehension. It's a shame it's not beyond corrupted comprehension.

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u/Fish_topher Aug 12 '22

Love the quote by the police chief that admits a gun was pulled by an off-duty officer bUt ThE gUn WaSn'T pOiNtEd At AnYbOdY.

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u/DrDrewBlood Aug 12 '22 Take My Energy

Other scenarios:

“It was pointed but not fired!”

“It was fired, but a bullet didn’t hit him!”

“A bullet hit him but he survived!”

“He didn’t survive but he had a criminal record!”

“He didn’t survive, and he didn’t have a criminal record, but he was acting suspicious!”

“He didn’t survive, he wasn’t acting suspicious but he was a POC!”

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u/BoJackB26354 Aug 12 '22

"He had no active warrants"

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u/DrDrewBlood Aug 12 '22

That one fucking infuriates me. “Oh, so like, INNOCENT??”

Also, “the officer engaged with the suspect and shots were fired” to make it sound like a goddamn shootout when the cop shot an unarmed black teenager in the back.

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u/AngriestPacifist Aug 12 '22

A step beyond innocent, no active warrants means you're not even under suspicion of a crime.

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u/andrewsad1 Aug 12 '22

Replace the phrase "with no active warrants" with "just like you, the person reading this" and you come close to conveying how fucked up it is that the pigs who murdered him haven't been [data expunged]

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u/Cabernet2H2O Aug 12 '22

"Acting suspicious" is my favourite excuse used by American police. I saw a video of a guy getting harassed by a police officer in front of his home because he exited his car, then turned around and looked at it. Apparently, in the cop's mind, this highly suspicious act warranted questioning and ID check.

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u/buddhassynapse Aug 12 '22

Mine is the feared for his life excuse. You can use literally any act, and an officer can justify it as a fear for his life.

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u/ramrug Aug 12 '22

"He was in a wheelchair, and was shot nine times in the back, but he slowly rolled away when the officer told him to stop."

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u/PackageintheMaleBox Aug 12 '22

Ryan Whitaker didn't point his gun at anyone but cops still shot him in the back on his knees in his own home.

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u/lemmeseeyourkitties Aug 12 '22

Jesus Fucking Christ.

BVPD "Yes we see our officer pulled his gun, but he didn't POINT it at anyone so it wasn't as bad as it could have been!"

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u/Atomic_xd Aug 12 '22

“He shot 10 people, but it could’ve been 15!”

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u/Jtbdn Aug 12 '22

Fucking pigs.

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u/Mental_Water_8948 Aug 12 '22

It was pointed down right at the guys leg wtf

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u/mybossthinksimworkng Aug 12 '22

So they release the name of the victim but not the criminal cop?

And we just all okay with that?

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u/Sea_Brass Aug 12 '22

Named the completely innocent customer too but not the cop. Figures

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u/formervoater2 Aug 12 '22

I can definitely assure you that our investigation will be thorough and if the officer is found to be in violation of any policies and procedures, he will be held accountable.

Something tells me he wasn't convicted of violating California Penal Code 245(a)(1): assault with a deadly weapon

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u/pfeifits Aug 12 '22 Helpful

The cop needs to be arrested. Menacing (in my state) and Assault or Criminal Threat in California involves placing someone in fear of imminent serious bodily injury or death. Pointing a gun at someone over a mistaken belief that they were shoplifting mentos is no justification for that type of force. It's a felony and cop should be prosecuted.

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u/RichardTheTwo Aug 12 '22

According to the chief he drew but didn't point it at the "suspect" so unless that's a policy violation he's getting off the hook.

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u/DeadHead6747 Aug 12 '22

Can’t just pulling a gun, or even just threatening with a gun even if it isn’t drawn or visible, still considered aggravated assault?

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u/scotchmanseggs Aug 12 '22

Brandishing a weapon is a crime.

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u/RawrRRitchie Aug 12 '22

So it's murdering someone

Yet there's hundreds of cups that have killed people

Executioner is no where in their job description, yet they still do it AND get away with it

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u/RichardTheTwo Aug 12 '22

Hey I'm on the same boat as you, but I'm basing my expectations on how this always goes and the explicit statement from his boss that he will be terminated if they find policy violations. The cops realistically don't seem to follow the same laws we must abide by. They will just investigate themselves and the union will cover for him

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u/DeadHead6747 Aug 12 '22

Oh, no, I have no doubt that this cop will receive no punishment at all, just wanted to point it out

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u/xratedcheese Aug 12 '22

According to the chief he drew but didn't point it at the "suspect"

Brandishing.

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u/RichardTheTwo Aug 12 '22

We say brandishing, the union will say using precautions in fear of his life in the line of duty, while off duty.

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u/Deadly_chef Aug 12 '22

Union will say utter crap and discharge him only after he kills someone innocent and only if it is on camera that he will conveniently shut off

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u/CrimbusIsOver Aug 12 '22

Policy does not supercede law. If that state has threat of violence laws for drawn guns in situations like this very one, there's a chance it could be taken to court. A slim one albeit. I'm sure they'll investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing.

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u/Cheesehacker Aug 12 '22

The law doesn’t apply to police, that is well known.

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u/ShiloAlibi Aug 12 '22 Silver

"You know who I am right?" A psychopath

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u/Iamjacksgoldlungs Aug 12 '22

A cop whos angry because he can only afford $6 in gas

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u/handy_arson Aug 12 '22

Oh yeah, I, know who you are... You're the fucking cop that will most likely kill me for no reason.

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u/eightyHD- Aug 12 '22

Shoplifting is met with deadly force?

G R E A T . F U C K I N G . T R A I N I N G .

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u/Kir-ius Aug 12 '22

I mean… holding a sandwich is met with deadly force and that’s legal as far as I know. Potential Shoplifting is definitely justified for them then

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u/Nopengnogain Aug 12 '22

And the training that says to loosely carry a handgun in your hoodie pocket when you are too lazy to put on a proper holster. JFC

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u/PerfectWoodpecker213 Aug 12 '22 Silver

"OH SHIT A MEXICAN WITH SOME MENTOS! BETTER PULL OUT MY GUNNNNN!"

-Officer Dipshit.

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u/TelayRanner Aug 12 '22 Wholesome

Be fair, Mentos now but the next stop it's a liter of Diet Coke and then you'd have the makings of a disaster.

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u/PerfectWoodpecker213 Aug 12 '22

Yeah, I hear that's how meth is made.

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u/TheNukeDoesReddit Aug 12 '22

I bet you heard that from a police officer.

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u/Phantereal Aug 12 '22

DARE taught us a lot of things.

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u/kafromet Aug 12 '22

Do we sell Liter Cola?

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u/RaiderOfZeHater Aug 12 '22

These bastards do this because they consider themselves above the law.

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u/adminsuckdonkeydick Aug 12 '22

consider themselves above the law.

American cops pretty much are.

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u/jollytoes Aug 12 '22

"you know who I am, right?" Yeah, your a fuckin twat waffle. You're a future killer. You are another bad apple out of the rotten orchard.

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u/Blazer9001 Aug 12 '22

Future? For as fast as he reached for his gun, for like no reason, I wouldn’t put it past him to have a body count.

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u/Nicegye00 Aug 12 '22

It wasn't just like "oh a police officer pulled a gun" but the fact just watching this got my whole stomach to drop like genuinely he just pulled a gun out on the thought of what someone was doing without anything concrete. That's just terrifying. That's pretty much the same as some normal person with a strap saying "I saw you steal that" and threatening you at gun point because of assumption. That's fucking scaring man.

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u/Bambicorn772 Aug 12 '22

Worse then a random person, a cop will get away with shooting you.

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u/rival13 Aug 12 '22

This is how cops are. be careful out there

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u/dtmdan44 Aug 12 '22

I’m a Brit, I’m not trying to be inflammatory but, can he just pull a gun out because he thinks the guy did something wrong? It’s not as if it was a life threatening situation. Also if the guy also had a gun and shot the guy who said he was a cop because he had drawn a gun what would happen. All very frightening.

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u/Pliskin01 Aug 12 '22 edited Aug 12 '22

If the customer had tried pulling his own gun on the cop and actually survived long enough for a trial, he would likely be going to prison. Isn't it crazy how someone in plain clothes can just pull out a gun, proclaim "I'm a cop", and you instantly lose all rights to bodily autonomy with no repercussions for the guy?

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u/PoppingCandi Aug 12 '22

Yeah, it’s disgusting.

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u/Ownhouse Aug 12 '22

Well the typical protocol for this situation is that the police department will be made aware that this incident occurred, will be tasked with investigating themselves, and will find no wrongdoing.

It’s only frightening if you don’t presuppose that cops are incapable of making poor judgment calls and need not be held to the same standards of the common man

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u/Healthy-Gap9904 Aug 12 '22

Police operate under a different set of rules here, much less accountability and consequences than civilians. For a civilian, the answer is usually an absolutely not. A civilian doing what this cop did would land you in trouble in most jurisdictions.

If the man buying the mentos legally had a gun and felt his life was threatened by the random dude, without a uniform pulling a gun on him while he's buying candy, drew his and shot the guy. He would be 100% in the right legally but being that the dude being shot is a cop it probably wouldn't go well for him.

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u/revtim Aug 12 '22

"That dirty criminal shoplifted the item by bringing it to the counter and giving money to the clerk!"

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u/NYESSbOss Aug 12 '22

I have seen worse. Someone invaded a house. Then put up his family pictures, college degree, and moved clothes and furniture in. Weird shit I'm telling you.

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u/Fishman23 Aug 12 '22

Open and shut case, Johnson.

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u/elaborate_benefactor Aug 12 '22

Sprinkle some crack on him and let’s get out of here.

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u/DeCryingShame Aug 12 '22

I mean, if he's stealing mentos, he's clearly a hardened and dangerous criminal....

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u/TadpoleNo4737 Aug 12 '22

You start like that, then you buy doet coke and who knows what evil plan are you pursuing....

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u/KazukiPUWU Aug 12 '22

Standard cop with a hero complex. Are there any other countries in the world where it’s normal for a police officer to pull a gun at a minor discrepancy? I absolutely hate how they’re used as a scare tactic by officers in the US. All it does is escalate a situation and result in death. Police should be protecting.

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u/BobbyMac2212 Aug 12 '22

I think once cops found out the Supreme Court ruled they are under no obligation to protect citizens they took it as they’re supposed to be a menace to those same citizens

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u/Exmawsh Aug 12 '22

Wishing the worst for that cop tbh.

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u/Complex_End1781 Aug 12 '22

What's the nam and badge number of this "police officer"? Anyone know? Also if anyone is able to help, this is irrefutable evidence of abuse of power and threatening two other's lives over wrongful assumption. Help find who this is and report complaint to city and give out all info we can on thi guy, please. We cannot keep allowing thing lik this to happen

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u/Mitches_bitches Aug 12 '22

It's messed up they release the victims name but keep officer dumbass' name hidden

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u/trowawaywork Aug 12 '22

The police department hasn't released the name, and the victim is the one who went to the newspaper.

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u/johnny2hands2 Aug 12 '22

At the end of the clip, the officer asked the clerk “you know who I am right?”, so obviously he knew this guy from previous encounters. What a joke, pull a gun then apologize as though that was sufficient enough. This guy needs to be strip of his authority.

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u/EqualLong143 Aug 12 '22

He said that because he knew he just broke the law and didnt want it reported.

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u/GlockAF Aug 12 '22

“You know who I am right?“

Yes, we do. A self entitled piece of shit who has no business carrying a gun, let alone the responsibility of being a police officer

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u/barca14h Aug 12 '22

So he Carries his loaded weapon in a sweatshirt unsecured?

He needs to show his badge first, and then a weapon if needed. He went to escalation first. Idiot

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u/Lofteed Aug 12 '22

but why the guy of the shop didn t say anything until he asked him ?

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u/cgill24 Aug 12 '22

Probably scared shitless but I thought the same thing.

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u/shaman_of_ramen Aug 12 '22

Right, this should have never happened in the first place, but if you see a gun pulled out by someone who appears to be a citizen, you're likely not going to get in the middle of it. (Not that it would make it any less scary if the cop was in uniform)

This should be a fireable offense, but who am I kidding, he probably could have shot the guy and only been put on paid leave.

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u/DandyLamborgenie Aug 12 '22

Even if you weren’t scared, appalled would also be a reasonable response. The brain isn’t good at just reacting to shit that doesn’t make sense. This was so dumb I think it’d take me a few minutes to process as a bystander. If I was the clerk I guess I’d be more inclined to say something but it’s still gonna take you a while to even figure out what the fuck just happened.

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u/DeweyMatter Aug 12 '22

Because he does know who he is - a fucking uneducated, unhinged moron who pulls guns on people whenever he gets that funky feelin'.

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u/burns_after_reading Aug 12 '22

The title says it's an off duty cop, so when you watch the video, the stage is already set for what the situation is. But if you're the shopkeeper, some random dude just pulled a gun in your store and said some random bullshit. If it was me, I'd probably be scared and confused as fuck and trying not to piss off this crazy person with a gun.

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u/Lofteed Aug 12 '22

i can see that

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u/Swift_Scythe Aug 12 '22

Shop owner does not see a badge or a uniform thinks its a robber.

Being robbed step one Stop talking and listen to demands. Step two give cash. Step three pray to a god you do not die over a candy bar.

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u/canuckle1211 Aug 12 '22

Prolly mumbling inside saying bro you doing too much chill

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u/JimboBeavertown Aug 12 '22

People wonder why no one likes cops. Power hungry to the max, wants to be a hero, be heard, but came off as a clown

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u/hojboysellin3 Aug 12 '22

Most cops are fucking losers that are attracted to the power of being a government pig.

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u/honorable__bigpony Aug 12 '22

Name and shame this douche..."you know who I am, right?"

A fucking bad cop...that's who.

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u/odamado Aug 12 '22

I'M A COP WHICH MEANS I CAN KILL ANYONE

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u/AVdev Aug 12 '22

"𝚖𝕐 𝒜𝕡ᴏᒪ𝐨𝒈🄸𝚎𝕊" Because that makes it all better.

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u/nmj510 Aug 12 '22

Wow... this person should not be a police officer. Just waiting to aggravate any and every situation. Wtf

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u/TheSpeakingScar Aug 12 '22

I love the veiled threat at the end "You know who I am right?"

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u/lorddogbirdfan Aug 12 '22

"You know who I am, right?"

Yeah, the guy comes in and shakes me down for free shit for protection. Can't let anyone else in on that game.

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u/ITstaph Aug 12 '22

“i aM tHE lAw!”

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u/ltliner Aug 12 '22

That's a cop that needs to be banned from police work and guns

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u/rival13 Aug 12 '22

realistically he will not be talked to and continue to overreact and swing his big blue dick around because that is what cops love to do!

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u/Shadowmaker-553 Aug 12 '22

We need to retrain police, even if he was trying to steal candy it’s not that officers job to deal with it. I mean is taking a life really worth some f*cking mints? The officers really need to work on their critical thinking skills.

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u/Khadarji117 Aug 12 '22

“You know who I am, right?”

Yeah, a fucking moron

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u/Anxious-Invite8796 Aug 12 '22

I really hope he got fired at the very least; He just threatened a man with a deadly weapon for PAYING FOR HIS PURCHASE.

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u/VerSalieri Aug 12 '22

Why didn't the clerk jump in to clarify that he did pay for it? He only responded when asked.

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u/Fogdevil_s Aug 12 '22

Lmao, who pulls a fucking gun on a shoplifter anyway? What if he ran? Shoot him over some fucking mentos? US is a fucking cesspool

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u/MingMah Aug 12 '22

“You know who I am right?” Lmao get fucked no one knows your pig bitchass