r/baseball Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 01 '22

Who’s the worst team to ever win a World Series? News

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u/declanmc666_ Minnesota Twins Sep 01 '22

1987 Twins had a negative run differential and could only win at home

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u/letsgoNYMets9376 Sep 01 '22

Kirby Puckett was an amazing player. Especially that year.

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u/MankuyRLaffy Sep 02 '22

He was a hitting machine

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u/SawgrassSteve Sep 02 '22

Kirby Puckett was built like a fireplug and hit the ball a mile regardless of where in the strike zone the pitch went. Dude could jump at the warning track too. I consider myself lucky to have seen him play.

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u/yathrowaday Minnesota Twins Sep 01 '22

Fun fact: the AAA affiliate was the Portland Beavers (https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/team.cgi?id=8f6b3f55) who went 45-96.

No AAA team has had a worse record since.

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u/hairywolf47 Sep 02 '22

Man as a kid growing up there was nothing better than going to a Portland Beavers game.

As an adult I went to the last game before they moved and that’s hands down one of the best live events I’ve been too, everyone singing and crying to sweet Caroline lmao

Think I still got an old Beavers lunchbox around here somewhere

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u/bromandude707 Sep 02 '22

Miss the Beavers

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u/shahooster St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

Fortunately for the Twins, they had home field advantage in the WS. Lost all 3 games in StL.

e: I went to games 6 and 7 at the Metrodome. When Hrbek hit that homer, hooboy was it loud in there.

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u/TheAb5traktion Minnesota Twins Sep 02 '22

e: I went to games 6 and 7 at the Metrodome. When Hrbek hit that homer, hooboy was it loud in there.

I miss the Thunderdome. I like Target Field, but the noise the fans in the Metrodome could achieve was something else.

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u/idleline Minnesota Twins Sep 02 '22

Good thing there wasn’t instant replay. There were some seriously blown calls that went in our favor. Especially in Game 7. Tommy Her rundown. Gagne safe at first.

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u/JimBeam823 Sep 02 '22

Did it again in 1991 vs Atl.

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u/TheShadeTree Seattle Mariners Sep 01 '22

Sounds familiar…

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

But did they win with the fun differential though?

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u/Olympus_Mons87 Seattle Mariners Sep 01 '22

This is the important question

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u/pdoerntvlearnd Sep 01 '22

Homer Hankies are the most fun baseball has ever been or will be don’t ya know.

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u/civgarth Sep 01 '22

Kent Hrbek held keggers at the local high school

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u/centuryofprogress Sep 01 '22

Yeah. I’m a fan, and they rose to the moment, but this is probably the answer.

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u/TheLongestMeter St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

I certainly wasn't a fan of that team.

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u/JonGilbonie Sep 02 '22

The AL West had home-field advantage in the ALCS and the AL had it in the World Series, so even if this was literally true the Twins would have won the World Series. However, they did manage to win two games in Tiger Stadium as well.

In 1991 the rotation was the same and the Twins took advantage again, going 5-1 at home and 3-3 on the road.

Amazingly, in 1965 the home team was 6-0 during the first six games, but the Twins lost Game 7 at the Met.

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u/CroakyPoem St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

2006 cardinals had an 83-78 record going into the playoffs.

They were incredibly injured through the year tbf but that's probably the worst record wise.

Edit: got the record wrong

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u/thescottreid Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 01 '22

That Cardinals team was the one that immediately hit me. Not only did they win the World Series, they were 11-17 to finish the season. They had a 7 game lead on September 20th and on the 28th it was a half game lead… Then they won the World Series.

The other thing I love about that Cardinals team is that the two previous seasons they combined for 205 wins and lost in the World Series and the NLCS. It was the 83 win squad that got the job done. It’s my go to for why you have to take every team seriously in the Postseason.

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u/dmahog Sep 01 '22

The ‘04 team especially was crazy good. That was peak “MV3”, with Pujols, Rolen, and Edmonds. They all batted over .300, had 30+ home runs, 100+ RBI’s, and an OPS over 1.000. They also had four 15 game winners and Jason Isringhausen saved 47 games. It’s the best regular season cardinals team I’ll likely see in my lifetime.

And yet, they got swept by the hottest team on the planet in the Series.

It really do be like that sometimes.

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u/sgtellias St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Plus end of career Larry Walker, Reggie Sanders and Ray Lankford. Edmonds was a monster that year, 46 HR’s.

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u/huckleberry420 Sep 02 '22

My goodness was that team stacked. Any other year and that team is winning it all.

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u/gowiththeflohe1 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

It's funny cause Cardinals doomers anytime they're losing whine and moan that "this team could NEVER match up with the Dodgers/Mets/Braves" and it's like man YOUR TEAM has had 2 entire World Series where they were picked by 0 analysts to make it past the Division Series

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u/rawonionbreath Sep 01 '22

The best regular season Cardinals team of the past 30 years was the one that lost to the Red Sox in ‘04.

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u/sgtellias St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Ran into a buzz saw. It didn’t matter how good we were after that ALCS for the ages. Felt like that was the actual series and we were just Finland in the 1980 Olympics. I wish we would have put up more of a fight, but seeing Boston win was still cool. I’m sure I’d still be bitter about it but having ‘06 and ‘11 definitely helped me get over any of it. Really loved that team and wish we won with Larry though.

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u/spiegro St. Louis Cardinals Sep 02 '22

So my wife was picking the movie for our date night movie one evening. She was so excited because she was thinking of me when she rented a baseball movie!

Oooh how nice babe thanks! I love Jimmy Fallon... Oh maybe they'll talk about the Cards during one of these scenes...

What's this? Oh a series with the Yankees, wait what year is this from again... Oh no...

The climax of the movie was Game 7 of the ALCS and didn't show a single swing from the WS. By the time j figured it out I hit pause and turned to her and asked "why have you done this to me?"

She made me watch a gaddamn Red Sox movie...

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u/kalamabp St. Louis Cardinals Sep 02 '22

Took Gloria to set me free of that Boston animus

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u/insert-originality New York Mets Sep 01 '22

not only lost but got swept. Baseball is weird.

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u/umbrellaguns St. Louis Cardinals Sep 02 '22

Fun fact; since 2000, the Cardinals actually have a worse winning pct. in seasons where they’ve won the World Series than ones where they haven’t.

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u/eee-oooo-ahhh Philadelphia Phillies Sep 01 '22

Maybe worst but you gotta give them credit for one of the craziest playoff runs ever. Peak devil magic.

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u/yoshidawg93 Atlanta Braves Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

I think their 2011 team was the most “devil magic” team of them all, but yeah their 2006 title run was wild too. Upsetting the Mets like they did was especially surprising.

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u/Jake848679 Philadelphia Phillies Sep 01 '22

It was 12 years ago, and I am not over the 2011 NLDS

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u/twunch_ Sep 01 '22

Ryan Howard's tendon snapped and so did the next 12 years of Philly playoff hopes...

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u/Jake848679 Philadelphia Phillies Sep 01 '22

Still physically pains me to remember that night. Ugh.

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u/2hats4bats Philadelphia Phillies Sep 01 '22

I didn’t sleep for two days. An otherwise blissful summer ruined.

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u/Still_Instruction_82 Milwaukee Brewers Sep 01 '22

I am still not over that NLCS

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u/HeWhoRidesCamels St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

I wanted to beat y’all so so bad just to spite Nyjer Morgan.

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u/Papplebeast St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

One of my favorite things ever is knocking the Brewers out after Tony Plush tweeted:

“Where still n 1st and I hope those crying birds injoy watching tha Crew in tha Playoffs!!! Aaaaahhhhh!!! … Alberta couldn’t see Plush if she had her gloves on!!! Wat was she thinking running afta Plush!!! She never been n tha ring!!! … Anywayz!!! On our way back 2 tha Brew City 2 welcome them Phillys!!! Itz gonna be an electric series … Ray Charles to the haters! Ahhhhhhh”

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u/skipperxc Milwaukee Brewers Sep 01 '22

I will never forgive Ken Macha for starting 75-year-old Mark Kotsay in CF and batting second over both Carlos Gomez and Nyjer Morgan IN THE @#$&ING PLAYOFFS. I have very few passionate sports takes but it's been 11 years and the fury has yet to subside.

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u/Von_Huge1103 Texas Rangers Sep 01 '22

That world series still haunts me

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u/CFB-RWRR-fan Atlanta Braves Sep 01 '22

I'm not over that run at the end of the regular season that got them into the postseason.

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u/onePPtouchh St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Dave freese will forever hold a special place in my baseball memories.

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u/CapacityBark20 Sep 01 '22

Was this the world series they won as the wild card team? I only remember it because I remember the peak in "All-Star game deciding home field advantage is garbage" discussions.

Speaking of which, there will be a whole generation of people that don't know that the all-star game used to decide home-field advantage in the world series.

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u/gowiththeflohe1 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Before the All-Star game is was arguably as stupid: The AL and NL swapped back and forth every year

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u/TheRealMarimbaGuy Texas Rangers Sep 01 '22

Special is not necessarily the word I would use

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u/Von_Huge1103 Texas Rangers Sep 01 '22

Unless the sentence is "special place in hell".

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u/roasty_mcshitposty St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

A special place in deep center field.

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u/micromaniac_8 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Can we pour one out for the Carpenter/Halladay duel in 2011? Might be the best pitched game I have ever seen.

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u/ForgetMeShots St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

I knew if I scrolled long enough someone would mention it. Not just the duel, but the specific lunge that Carp made to tag 1st and almost got his hand spiked. I’m convinced that one play cost me minimum a couple months off my lifespan

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u/Raw-Shark St. Louis Cardinals Sep 02 '22

That play is actually game one of the WS. I thought it was that game also for the longest time, rewatched the game and was like wait when did that happen??

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u/UnknownUnthought New York Mets Sep 01 '22

Still not over this. 8 year old me learned a valuable lesson that October.

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u/ProcrastinatorJames2 New York Yankees Sep 01 '22

I always think to say 06 Cardinals, then I remember effectively it was the same team from 04-05

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u/CroakyPoem St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Yeah, they had both the prior Cy Young and MVP on the same roster. But Albert missed 3 months or something, and Carp missed the entire year.

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u/turkturkeIton St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

He missed about 3 weeks with a broken arm. It cost him an mvp he should have won anyway

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u/gowiththeflohe1 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

No it was an oblique. Broken radius was 2011.

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u/turkturkeIton St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Ah yes you are right. It's been awhile. Pujols still should have won the MVP in 06 though.

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u/MaskedGambler69 Sep 01 '22

And boy did he ever come through in the playoffs. Peak Carpenter.

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u/SLR107FR-31 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

La Russa said when he realized he finally had every key player off the DL and his lineup was back to normal for the first time all season in 2006, it was Game 1 of the NLDS. Plus we got off to a (still) franchise best 34-17, better two month start than the 2004-05 Cards.

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u/nufandan Sep 01 '22

they were a team with 3 players that posted bWARs over 2 for the season and collectively posted a 97 OPS+ and 98 ERA+ during the regular season.

What juggernauts!

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u/cogginsmatt Detroit Tigers Sep 01 '22

Only time I've ever cried over a baseball game was when the Cardinals won after that magic season the Tigers had

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u/throwawaybanned0102 Sep 01 '22

Just because their record was 83-78 doesn’t mean they were bad. Their middle of the lineup was literally Pujols, Rolen, Edmonds with Cy Young caliber Carp. That’s better than most teams that will make the playoffs this year.

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u/ahr3410 Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 01 '22

2006 Cardinals being the team to win it all from their 2004-2006 core is the most baseball thing ever.

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u/imaginarion26 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

It should have been ours in 2004, 2006 was the birth of Devil Magic and evening things out

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u/ssp25 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

2006 Cardinals had the best record in baseball to start the season then got injured... Same group that was amazing for 3 years before... Granted they got hot at the end but the background helps.

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u/JoYac35 Detroit Tigers Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

The only thing about the Cardinals that World Series is that they were determined not to lose after losing to the Red Sox in 04 and the NLCS the following year. The Tigers weren’t experienced and easily could’ve been swept. This coming from someone who drank more Orange Kool-aid than he should’ve after Mags belted that walk off homer in the ALCS.

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u/BeerLeagueHallOfAvg Detroit Tigers Sep 01 '22

Who wasn’t drinking that kool-aid though? The Yankees were monsters, and we knocked them out pretty easily then whipped the A’s. We looked unstoppable! And that home run is still my favorite sports moment ever

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u/LokiRicksterGod St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

I tell non-Cards fans that the Cardinals did not win the 2006 World Series. The Detroit Tigers lost it.

Seriously, how does a team playing in the World Series get a fielding error from their pitcher in all five games played?

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u/ForgetMeShots St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Tigers in 3 indeed

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u/ilovedogs997 New York Mets Sep 01 '22

Cardinals that year

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u/Von_Huge1103 Texas Rangers Sep 01 '22

This could easily be a reference to multiple years. Fuck that team, respectfully.

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u/xmlgroberto St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

we dont even try until october, to conserve energy

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u/iansch243 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 02 '22

Every time I meet a rangers fan I look them in the eye and apologize from my soul. I’m not really sorry but I know it makes them feel better.

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u/Von_Huge1103 Texas Rangers Sep 02 '22

We appreciate the gesture regardless of whether it's genuine.

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u/edom31 New York Mets Sep 01 '22

They're not my cup of tea. But I must respect that organization.. look at their accomplishments. And that year they beat Texas. No need for the big Yankee wallet either.

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u/maltzy Cincinnati Red Stockings Sep 01 '22

That year the Cardinals won only 83 games and lost more than they won to the Reds.

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u/myredditthrowaway201 Sep 01 '22

Hey, that team had Pujols, stolen and Edmonds and a decent supporting cast. If Mulder and Carp had been healthy that year we would have won a lot more than 83 games

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u/BlahBlahNyborg New York Mets Sep 01 '22

How dare you forget X Factor Eckstein!

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u/AmateurVasectomist St. Louis Cardinals Sep 02 '22

“Ecks Factor” was available to you

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u/NYCWriterOfAllThings Sep 01 '22

Yes and they actually had an outstanding record for much of the season. Bad second half, then got healthy again and gelled so it’s a little overblown. And I’m a Mets fan saying that.

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u/AmateurVasectomist St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

That year the Cardinals … lost more than they won to the Reds.

When you know you’re crap!

That team piled up the Ls in September, but got healthy just at the right time to make a run. Jeff Suppan still had some fuel left in the tank and somehow we won with wildcards like Ronnie Belliard, Jeff Weaver, and Preston Wilson

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u/maltzy Cincinnati Red Stockings Sep 01 '22

truly the most frustrating postseason not involving the Reds that I have ever watched.

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u/fordprecept Cincinnati Reds Sep 02 '22

In fairness, there haven't been a lot of postseasons that HAVE involved the Reds the last 30 years.

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u/queezuswalks St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Such a random squad. 2011 was pretty damn random too.

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u/Papplebeast St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

I disagree. It's easy to pick that team because they won only 83 games in the regular season, but if you look deeper you can see they were "better" than that record.

  1. The Cardinals won 105 and 100 games in 2004 and 2005.
  2. They were 34-19 on June 1 (100 win pace). They had been relatively healthy to that point.
  3. They were 58-42 in late July (94 win pace) but lost a lot of games in the second half because they had so many injuries.
  4. They were 22-27 in 1-run games, but 30-23 in blowouts.
  5. They got healthy going into the playoffs.

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u/magnevicently Sep 01 '22

They lost 84 games to the reds?

/s

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u/urasquid28 San Francisco Giants Sep 01 '22

I love my Giants but the 2014 team was not very good. Bumgarner was just out of his mind.

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u/samhartm San Francisco Giants Sep 01 '22

It’s like playing as the Raiders on Tecmo Bowl…sure the team sucked, but just give the ball to Bo / Bum.

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u/outinthegorge San Francisco Giants Sep 01 '22

That team did have a lot of talent in the infield in Posey, Belt, Crawford, Pablo, and Panik. Ultimately Panik flamed out and Pablo had a pretty volatile career, but the other three were franchise cornerstones.

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u/mechapoitier Sep 02 '22

Yeah it’s hard to lose when you have an ace pitcher willing to pitch in three World Series games and who hit two grand slams that year to get there.

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u/Bballdad30 Sep 02 '22

Our pitching staff was terrible. If madbum wasn’t pitching we would get rocked. The only game we won in the WS without him was the Hudson game where our offense went off. Game 6 we lost by like 10 runs lol.

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u/Rakuen San Francisco Giants Sep 02 '22

You’re not wrong but go to baseball reference and lookup peavys stats that year with the giants. He was a beast in the second half lol

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u/wizmotron San Francisco Giants Sep 02 '22

I kept saying during that postseason, it’s not like this team knows how to win they’re just completely incapable of losing

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u/ItsMeJahead New York Mets Sep 02 '22

Some might call him mad

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u/RSS24 Pittsburgh Pirates Sep 02 '22

I was at the wildcard game. Broke my heart.

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u/MoreTrifeLife Washington Nationals Sep 02 '22

The Giants got swept 3-0 by the Royals in KC a few months before the World Series.

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u/Ledge_r Baltimore Orioles Sep 01 '22

There was no way y’all should’ve beat that Royals team tbh that team was elite

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u/samhartm San Francisco Giants Sep 01 '22

The Pirates scored 28 less runs than the Yankees in the 1960 World Series…and won.

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u/PainTrainMoneyMan St. Louis Cardinals Sep 02 '22

A Yankees player won ws mvp that year lol. Not sure but I imagine it’s the only time that’s ever happened. I think they had to decide the mvp before the last game was over and it looked like the yankees were going to win…

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u/samhartm San Francisco Giants Sep 02 '22

Yup. Bobby Richardson won MVP in spite of Mantle having a better average, OBP, SLG, and more HRs. As a team the Yanks slashed .338/.383/.528.

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u/davewashere Montreal Expos Sep 02 '22

There was a huge "scrappy little guy" bias in baseball awards voting in the mid-20th century that doesn't get talked about enough.

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u/LouBarlowsLeftNut San Diego Padres Sep 01 '22

I love looking at the boxscores from that series. Pittsburgh got blown out every game they lost. And still won.

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u/samhartm San Francisco Giants Sep 02 '22

It was miraculous they were in a game 7…and then Mazeroski!

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u/LouBarlowsLeftNut San Diego Padres Sep 02 '22

Right?! Iirc a hitter just before him had a hit with a higher WPA. There's a video on it out there, I feel like I need a rewatch

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u/SPYLRS Florida Marlins Sep 01 '22

The Marlins lol

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u/grahamcore Atlanta Braves Sep 01 '22

That 03 Marlins team was awesome, just no one knew it at the time.

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u/cgio0 Sep 01 '22

The marlin won when I was super young and when I got older and looked at some of those guys I was like wait Beckett was on that team or Miggy too

So crazy

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u/gortlank Texas Rangers Sep 01 '22

Mfers forgetting the literal GOAT catcher smh.

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u/HaV0C Chicago Cubs Sep 02 '22

Johnny Bench was on that team?

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u/RealShooterMcGavin Milwaukee Brewers Sep 02 '22

They're talking about Yogi Berra, moron.

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u/enztinkt Sep 01 '22

Alou, juan Pierre, Mike Lowe

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u/biffbobsen Chicago Cubs Sep 01 '22

I think everyone's talking about 03 actually, where Alou was pretty famously not on the Marlins

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u/XSC Philadelphia Phillies Sep 02 '22

That team was stacked. That 2003 ended up everywhere due to the fire sale.

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u/enztinkt Sep 01 '22

Yup just look at the roster.

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u/WskyRcks Sep 01 '22

Man as a Cleveland fan I still remember the 97’ series. Watching that one series was worse than watching 20 years of bad browns teams.

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u/Less_Likely Cleveland Guardians Sep 01 '22

That game 7 was just… Absolutely devastating. And to think 19 years later we’d have to relive it.

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u/Sylar_Is_An_Asshole Cleveland Indians Sep 01 '22

I was only 11 and still remember it…..

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u/KingKringe63 Cincinnati Reds Sep 01 '22

Respect lol

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u/strangehitman22 Seattle Mariners Sep 01 '22

2006 Cardinal based purely off W/L?

83-78 went on to win the WS over the 95 win tigers

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u/JohnEKaye New York Mets Sep 01 '22

And beat the 97 win Mets in the NLCS.

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u/strangehitman22 Seattle Mariners Sep 01 '22

Brutal

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u/Jemmy_Bean New York Mets Sep 01 '22

Endy had me thinking we were going win it all

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u/insert-originality New York Mets Sep 01 '22

11 year old me is crying again

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u/bergyd St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

Probably the '87 Twins. The 2006 Cardinals had the worst record.

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u/fquizon Boston Red Sox Sep 01 '22

How are you just gonna disrespect Kent Hrbek like that

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u/C_Grindstaff Kansas City Royals Sep 01 '22

Puckett, Gaetti, Gagne? Should’ve won 5 in that time!

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u/grahamcore Atlanta Braves Sep 01 '22

Ill disrespect Hrbek 8 days a week.

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u/jacked_archivist San Francisco Giants Sep 01 '22

2020 Dodgers. Only won 43 games.

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u/ClassicMach Detroit Tigers Sep 01 '22

What! That team was unbelievable! They only lost 17 games!

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u/Myotherdumbname Arizona Diamondbacks Sep 02 '22

Scrubs. The Dbacks won more last year. Barely.

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u/JinFuu Houston Astros Sep 01 '22

Probably the 1943 Yankees/1944 St. Louis Cardinals with how depleted the rosters were from WW2?

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u/hazymindstate New York Yankees Sep 01 '22

Sportswriter Warren Brown, when asked who he thought would win the World Series in 1944, said “I don’t think either one of them can win it”.

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u/Prize_Major6183 St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

To be fair that Cardinals team won in 42 when most baseball players were still around.

Those teams were the culmination of Branch Rickeys farm system and are one of just a few recognized non Yankees dynasties. The 40s cardinals dynasty was shit on in Ken Burns Baseball but it was a legit dynasty seeing as they won it all again in 46 when all the players were back

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u/ehbacon23 Philadelphia Phillies Sep 01 '22

They weren't a bad team at all, but the 2019 Nationals are very confusing.

In 2018 they were 82-80, extremely mediocre. Then they started 2019 just god awful at 19-31 before catching fire for the rest of the year. They have been terrible again ever since.

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u/johnnotmark Washington Senators Sep 01 '22

It was a wild time. Tbf tho we had like the third best record in the league that decade (or something like that) so it’s not like we were only winning games for the last 2/3 of 2019. 2016 and 2017 the Nats had over 95 wins, then were mediocre in 18 and then went back to what folks expected of them after 19-31.

We were at the end of a nice contending window that included a couple duds like 15 and 18 as you mentioned.

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u/droozer Washington Nationals Sep 01 '22

2015 will always be my favorite non-19 year. Harper going nuclear, Scherzer nearly throwing 3 perfect games and putting up 3 of the highest game scores ever, plus no pain of losing in the NLDS

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u/Lukey_Jangs New York Yankees Sep 01 '22

Both the Nats and the Tigers started that season 19-31

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u/rolandpapi Sep 01 '22

I live in Texas and have had to deal with a lot of Houston fans that thought they had that series in the bag.

That Nationals team in the second half was insane. Everybody on that roster was clicking and that WS wasnt a fluke. I really believe they were the best team that year despite the first half record. Really fun to watch and nobody paid them any mind the entire way through

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u/htownlifer Sep 01 '22

No true Houston fan EVER thinks they have it in the bag. Too many horrifying losses. Even after we won in 17 we found out it will be forever questioned.

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u/godzillagorilla3 Washington Nationals Sep 01 '22

In 2018, Strasburg underperformed and threw 130 innings, Gio started to fall off, and they didn’t really have anyone in the bullpen other than Doolittle and no good SP depth. They got zero production from their catchers, Murphy was hurt and mediocre when healthy, Kendrick missed the entire year, Harper had a terrible first half and was one of the worst defenders in the league that year because he wanted to protect his body going into a contract year, and Soto wasn’t up for the first month and a half. Wilmer Difo had 456 plate appearances, they were just stretched so thin without good depth.

In 2019, it was a mix of underperforming and injuries to start the year (Turner, Rendon, Soto, were all on the IL at some point in April/May) and for half the year Doolittle was the only competent arm in the bullpen. But they had much better catching and depth (mainly Kendrick coming back from injury + Parra clubhouse vibes) and made some great moves down the stretch in picking up Daniel Hudson and Asdrubal Cabrera. Also having 3 top 10 SPs in the league in Scherzer, Stras and Corbin didn’t hurt. And then they got insanely hot for 5 out of the 7 months of the season in the last year of their window with the oldest team in baseball

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u/EmperorXerro Sep 01 '22

'88 Dodgers have got to be up there

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u/uhhhhhhhhhhhyeah Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 01 '22

Hershiser really towed them to that ring.

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u/EnsignObvious Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 01 '22

They won 94 games and the NL West pre-1995 so it's not as if they were bad it's just that their offense was awful but the pitching was excellent. A team 2.96 ERA ain't nothing to sneeze at.

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u/ColdYellowGatorade New York Mets Sep 02 '22

The Mets are involved in too many of these WS winners. I think the 88 Mets beat the Dodgers every game that year until the playoffs.

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u/ThinkBlue9220 Sep 02 '22

10 out of 11 lol

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u/gsanch666 Chicago Cubs Sep 01 '22

According to my dad(WSox fan) the 2016 Cubs

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u/mqr53 Chicago White Sox Sep 01 '22

Obviously wrong, but that teams weird in that it felt like that team was loaded with future hall of fame level talent and not one will likely get there

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u/pdoerntvlearnd Sep 01 '22

Yeah seriously. That felt like the flood gates had opened and the Cubs would be competing year in year out finally.

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u/GeeseHateMe Toronto Blue Jays Sep 01 '22

It really is strange. When they won, Bryant, Heyward, Arrieta, Lester, and even Rizzo all seemed on Hall of Fame tracks or close to it. Hendricks and Baez seemed like they might even be after 2017. Obviously Heyward, Arrieta, and Rizzo fell well short not long after, Lester retired, Hendricks has tabled off, and Baez is inconsistent. Bryant is probably the only one who will have a chance to get there, and I don't think he will with his injuries. It might be the team with the most 20-60 WAR players ever though. This list (bWAR):

+Anthony Rizzo (39.3)

Ben Zobrist (44.5)

+Kris Bryant (29.2)

+Dexter Fowler (19.4, oh so close)

+Jason Heyward (38.7)

+Javier Baez (24.7)

+Willson Contreras (20.6)

+Kyle Schwarber (10.5, will likely hit 20 if not much more)

Jon Lester (43.4)

Jake Arrieta (22.8)

+Kyle Hendricks (21.8)

John Lackey (37.3)

+Aroldis Chapman (18.9)

Joe Nathan (26.7)

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u/ProfessorSucc St. Louis Cardinals Sep 02 '22

And, like, 2 years after winning World Series MVP Ben Zobrist falls completely off the face of the earth

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u/grocho Chicago Cubs Sep 02 '22

Forced to step away from baseball to retain custody of his children and never made it back. It's a damn shame.

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u/xpyro88 Chicago White Sox Sep 01 '22

The 2022 white sox. We're going to win it this year!!

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u/LegalComplaint Sep 01 '22

Hey, TLR took the ass 83 win 06 Cardinals to a title. Who says he can’t repeat the feat?

checks news on Tony’s health

Oh, God says he can’t.

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u/Ill_Abalone7484 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 01 '22

The Yankees every time

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u/jonginator New York Yankees Sep 01 '22

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u/throatbutterz Baltimore Orioles Sep 01 '22

Literally hitler.

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u/CFB-RWRR-fan Atlanta Braves Sep 01 '22

It's been a decade plus since our (Yankees) last World Series championship and so many of y'all are still salty. Lol

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u/Ill_Abalone7484 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 01 '22

I just hate the Yankees that’s all

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u/EaglesPvM Philadelphia Phillies Sep 01 '22

Agreed

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u/JasonPlattMusic34 Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 01 '22

1987 Twins had a negative run differential and I don’t think anyone else had that, did they?

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u/baycommuter Oakland Athletics Sep 01 '22

1906 “hitless wonder” White Sox who beat the mighty Cubs in a crosstown series were the classic example.

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u/ProcrastinatorJames2 New York Yankees Sep 01 '22

I mean its hard to really call any team that wins a world series bad or “the worst”. My gut says 06 cardinals but my brain says that record wasn’t reflective of their play

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u/TheRKC Detroit Tigers Sep 01 '22

Doesn't help the Tigers pitchers went 0 for the series on throwing to the first baseman.

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u/Griffdogg92 Seattle Mariners Sep 01 '22

I was on a youth team that year, and our coach was Carlos Guillen's close friend and personal trainer. We watched a couple of those games as a team and it was... not a pleasant viewing experience.

We were also promised we'd get to go in the Detroit clubhouse when the Tigers came to Seattle. Never happened. If you're reading this, fuck you Guillermo

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u/letsgoNYMets9376 Sep 01 '22 Evil Cackle

1919 Cincinnati red's. The whitesox threw the series to them.

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u/ScorpioMagnus Sep 02 '22

I love Field of Dreams but the film did a dis-service to the 1919 Reds. They weren't a team that was just lucky to be there. They had a 96-44 record which was better than Chicago's (88-52) that year.

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u/toxichart Arizona Diamondbacks Sep 02 '22

I think they're naming the Reds because it took 8 games in a series that the Whitesox were trying to lose for the majority of.

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u/krag3 Sep 02 '22

The Reds had the better record by like 5 games in the regular season.

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u/shermanstorch Cleveland Naps Sep 01 '22

1919 Cincinnati Reds. Took them 8 games to win a rigged Series.

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u/travism1208 Sep 01 '22

Probably a teM who won during ww2,because players were in the service

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u/WhackadoodleSandwich New York Mets Sep 01 '22 Gold Starry

2017 Houston Astros. They did cheat.

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u/southernfriedscott Atlanta Braves Sep 01 '22

Could they have won without cheating? Who the fuck knows because they did.

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u/nicolas_west Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters Sep 01 '22

Game 5 was a dogfight in Houston and the critical turning point of the series. Don’t think they win that game without having cheated

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u/dba1990 Sep 01 '22

Tom Verducci rewatched that Game 5 after Jomboy first provided video evidence of the Astros cheating. He found out no Houston batters swung on any Kershaw breaking pitch. Not once.

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u/redsyrinx2112 Baltimore Orioles Sep 01 '22

I think it was no swings-and-misses on any Kershaw curve ball. I think there were four swings-and-misses total.

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u/Im_Daydrunk Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 01 '22

It was on all Kershaw breaking balls. Which was 51 total pitches

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u/Bawfuls Los Angeles Dodgers Sep 02 '22

there was exactly 1 swing and miss on his breaking balls in that game

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u/Powerserg95 New York Yankees Sep 01 '22

That stat says it all. And its not like Kershaw didnt have his stuff. I hate that it also prolonged the "Kershaw chokes" meme, when up until that game, hed been lights out in the postseason

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u/tacobell999 Sep 02 '22

87 Twins. Would have finished 5th in the AL East that year.

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u/prius4lyf Boston Red Sox Sep 02 '22

I haven’t seen it yet but a strong contender is the 2013 Red Sox. I mean really no star power and Ortiz randomly turned into a god in the playoffs. We had a million role players and got hot late. I don’t remember the record off the top of my head but when we won I was genuinely surprised.

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u/itsmb12 Milwaukee Brewers Sep 02 '22

The 2022 Brewers

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u/NWbySW Seattle Mariners Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 01 '22

The Braves last year had a worse regular season record than the Mariners who didn't make the playoffs.

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u/Taylorenokson Atlanta Braves Sep 01 '22

Wait, no let's play a different game.

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u/NWbySW Seattle Mariners Sep 01 '22

Trust me, I'd love to.

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u/Ok_Consequence_666 Seattle Mariners Sep 01 '22

But you look at that team and it was actually a great team

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u/audirt Atlanta Braves Sep 01 '22

The team that finished the year was very different than the one that started the year.

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u/AmateurVasectomist St. Louis Cardinals Sep 01 '22

I always thought the 97 Marlins signified a down year for baseball but they had a great pitching staff. Probably not a “worst evar” but maybe an honorable mention.

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u/Fastsmitty47 Boston Red Sox Sep 01 '22

The 2019 Nationals were 19-31 at one point and just beat the Astros in seven. One of the most well earned championships ever

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u/RedBaron9299 New York Yankees Sep 01 '22

1960 Pirates

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u/CatGatherer Sep 01 '22 edited Sep 02 '22

1985 Royals?

16th in runs on offense, 7th in runs allowed.

They went 91-71, barely holding off the California Angels by one game.

The Yankees won 97 games in the other division, but no wild cards back then, so only the 99-win Blue Jays made the playoffs.

They lost the first 2 and 3 of the first 4 vs the Jays to go down 3-1. Only a single, bunt, infield ground out, and a blooper in the bottom of the 8th in game 3 kept them from being down 3-0.

Both teams had 8 hits in game 5, but the blue Jays couldn't score any runs, including with runners on 2nd and 3rd with no outs.

They went down 2 games to zero (both home losses) vs the powerhouse Cardinals, winners of 101 games.

Just like the ALCS, the Royals then won a game before going down 3 games to 1.

They won Game 5 convincingly before eking out a 2-1 victory in game 6, thanks to an infamous missed call by umpire Don Denkinger that would have had the Royals down 1-0 with no one on and 1 out in the bottom of the 9th, 2 outs from losing the series. Instead, they got a runner on first with no outs. The next batter popped out up in foul ground but Jack Clark couldn't catch it. The batter then singled to put the winning run on first with no outs.

The Royals catcher tried to bunt the runners over (with 2 strikes) but the pitcher made a nice play to get the out at 3rd. Of course, he then threw a wild pitch. The next batter hit a little bloop that scored the tying run from third and the winning run from second.

Deflated from the missed call and coming so close to winning the series, the Cardinals got blown out in game 7, 11-0.

I'm not sure if the Royals were the worst team to win it all, but they were certainly the luckiest.

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u/RustyShackleford14 Toronto Blue Jays Sep 02 '22

Another thing to note is if the CS hadn’t been updated to a best of 7 in ‘85, they would have lost the ALCS 3-1.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '22

Maybe the 06 cardinals but it’s so hard for a average team to win a championship in baseball because of how the playoff format is compared to the NBA, NFL, and especially the NHL.

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u/BMP353 Atlanta Braves Sep 02 '22

1997 and 2003 Marlins

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u/BobbyDalbec MLBPA Sep 01 '22

2020 Dodgers only won 43 games

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u/RiddlingTea Toronto Blue Jays Sep 01 '22

The time your favourite team did it. If they’ve won multiple, the first or most meaningful time.

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u/mormagils New York Mets Sep 01 '22

2015 Royals were the worst. Clearly not as good as the other team if you ask me.

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u/gsanch666 Chicago Cubs Sep 01 '22

When I can’t sleep at night I have my wife check the closet and underneath the bed to make sure Daniel Murphy isn’t there.

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