r/BlackPeopleTwitter ☑️ Sep 24 '22

Dual Citizenship Country Club Thread

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u/Speckled_Clout ☑️ Sep 24 '22

Say her name!

It's Gabriella, btw

She also was a musician that knew sign language.

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u/TheSweatyFlash Sep 24 '22

Because she was hearing impaired

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u/Speckled_Clout ☑️ Sep 24 '22

Oh okay, I was wondering why sign language was listed as a "power and ability" along with "swimming". Like, she's a damn mermaid, of course she can swim 🤣

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u/mandisaclarke ☑️ Sep 24 '22

Is swimming listed as an ability for the other mermaids? Lmao

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u/Speckled_Clout ☑️ Sep 24 '22

Along with "blinking" and "existing"

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u/ArrestDeathSantis ☑️ Sep 25 '22

"existing"

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u/Speckled_Clout ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Hey, fictional characters can exist, too!

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u/foxontherox Sep 25 '22

Why would mermaids need to blink?

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u/sanitizershots Sep 25 '22

When they go above water, when they swim through murky water. Idk they probably don’t but maybe it’s like being double jointed. Some of them are special in a non functional way

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u/212cncpts ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Ah yes 2 out of the 3 Kardashian skills and abilities

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u/someguynamedjamal ☑️ Sep 25 '22

That's actually a good question...

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u/mandisaclarke ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Because I would hate to prematurely throw out the whole “are they implying certain mermaids can’t swim” 😝

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u/U_PassButter ☑️ Sep 25 '22

They better. Lmao.

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u/badbatch Sep 25 '22

So they were trying to be woke even back then! Black AND deaf?!? So whites that can hear were being erased even back in the 90s! The white genocide continues to this day!!!

/s just in case folks can't tell

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u/ctr1a1td3l Sep 25 '22

So they were trying to be woke even back then!

I agree with your underlying point, but yes of course they were trying to be "woke" back then. There were a lot of token minorities in TV shows in the late 80s / early 90s.

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u/badbatch Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

I hope y'all knew that post was jk.

Growing up in the 80s I remember so many cartoons had a token black character that never got their own storyline. You didn't know anything about them because their character was there just for the sake of diversity. Main female characters were almost always blonde or red headed white girls.

And the black character always had to wear blue or purple. Strawberry shortcake's black friend was blueberry and rainbow brights black friend was blue. There was a black girl on Dungeons and Dragons but I wasn't allowed to watch it because it was demonized.

I used to really love Jem because a black woman and an Asian woman were in the band and main characters. They also added a Mexican girl. They all got their own episodes too. You didn't really see that kind of diversity in the 80s.

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u/dtol2020 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Has gotten better, just tired of it being called “woke” all the time

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u/kahran ☑️ Sep 25 '22

American Sign Language 😂

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u/Speckled_Clout ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Now I'm wondering what African American Sign Language looks like

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u/renthestimpy Sep 25 '22

Black American Sign Language is a real thing 😍 https://youtu.be/3YAwjCBgJUs

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u/FreezeFrameEnding Sep 25 '22

There are all sorts of sign language under the ASL umbrella! It's really cool, and more people should know about it. Sign language is colorful and beautiful all on its own, just like vocalized language's variations.

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u/FreezeFrameEnding Sep 25 '22

They should just make a movie about Gabriella, what the hell? She's fucking cool. More characters that can speak sign language, please.

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u/bloodaxe51 ☑️ Sep 24 '22

I keep trying to get these people to say black or black people(not blacks, that's laundry) so far it's been a struggle out here in California. I'm black but not African American and that's a concept some people can't seem to understand.

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u/ttnl35 Sep 25 '22

Whenever posts like this come up I remember I bit of a comedy show where a black British comedian talks about when he did a tour in America and arguing with the venue/host because they kept insisting on introducing him as "African American".

First of all, it would be "African British", and second of all, it wouldn't be that either because no one says it like that outside of America.

For the life of me I can't find the clip though. I could have sworn it was Stephen K Amos.

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u/Mudfap Sep 25 '22

How about the fact that the presenter felt it necessary to state the comedian’s race at all?

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u/ttnl35 Sep 25 '22

Well sure but I didn't write the stand up routine, I'm just relaying it.

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u/Mudfap Sep 25 '22

I hear ya. Didn’t mean to direct it towards you, just yelling out into the ether.

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u/ttnl35 Sep 25 '22

Ah I see. Yeah I agree with you.

Though to be absolutely fair I can't find the clip and maybe it was relevant for some reason.

Catch me watching his entire Live at the Apollo only for it to have been on a different show.

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u/Mudfap Sep 25 '22

Ha. If you do find the clip, please post. Sounds good.

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u/Finito-1994 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Hey. You can post that in r/TipOfMyTongue. They are wizards at finding shit in the internet.

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u/ClockworkJim Sep 25 '22

I think this also happened with Chiwetel Ejiofor

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u/JellyBiafra54321 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

as a black American that lives in the UK, I can assure you that minorities often have the qualifier of their race attached to the British bit. you know good and well they'll be referred to as black British/Chinese British,a Pakistani British, etc.

it exists here too.

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u/theycallmeponcho Sep 25 '22

First of all, it would be "African British", and second of all, it wouldn't be that either because no one says it like that outside of America.

Fuck this shit. Some years ago here in Mexico started with over political correctness push to even say afromexicanos, where there's social issues regarding blackness around here.

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u/nomansapenguin ☑️ Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

It’s not necessarily over political correctness.

The problem is skin colour. Literally. People are racist based of how dark your skin is. Therefore grouping people by nationality doesn’t always help. A dark skinned Mexican will have a very different discrimination experience compared to a light one.

So how do you explain that? How do you address that? Well you have to create a name for the target group. So that people recognise what you’re talking about. Afromexicano clearly explains you’re talking about a dark-skinned Mexican (despite it being the first time I’ve heard the word).

This is language working as intended. Consider this for example - Right wing > Republican > Trump Supporter > Oath Keeper. These are all very different groups and being a member of one may or may not imply you are a member of another. It’s not overly politically correct to differentiate here though right? Republicans could get very angry if you confused them for Oath Keepers.

Grouping is only called ‘overly politically correct’ when someone is trying to stifle discussion on that topic.

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u/LevelOutlandishness1 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Can't you just call them "black Mexicans", or however that translates? My whole thing is that if we don't call white/lighter skinned Mexicans "euromexicanos" (if that's how the translation works, not a Spanish speaker), then just say color.

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u/nomansapenguin ☑️ Sep 25 '22

We don’t call white Mexicans ‘euro Mexicans’ because white is the ‘default’. The world exists through a white lens so when you say ‘Mexican’ most people are thinking of the white version anyway. Also, white Mexicans don’t experience issues that need them to have a separate grouping from black ones.

Why do you think the word ‘anti-Semitic’ exists? Why don’t we just say ‘racism against Jews’ like we do with every other race? It’s because Jews wanted to specifically label their oppression to call it out. And it worked perfectly.

We should more be asking the question why doesn’t a specific word exist for racism against blacks.. like ‘anti-ebonic’?

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u/rokerroker45 Sep 25 '22

Nah bro, in Latin America we're dumb as fuck when it comes to racism and awareness of privilege. I don't feel like trying to raise awareness of afromexican identity is necessarily pushing "political correctness" when historically the main treatment of blackness in Latin America is as something undesirable to be rid of by marrying into lighter skinned families.

Latin America as a whole has a ridiculous racism problem that constantly gets handwaved away as aceptable simply because it's uncontroversial. "Oh that nickname isn't racist, it's just how it is over here," and excuses like that are constant. Fuck that, we're ass backward and the fact that huge portions of Latin America don't understand racism doesn't excuse the gleeful refusal to try to understand that is the default mindset for many of us.

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u/sjp1980 Sep 25 '22

That sounds like him even if it wasn't him.

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u/inconspicuousmallard Sep 25 '22

AcTuAlLy ElOn MuSk iS aFrIcAn

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u/ScalyDestiny Sep 25 '22

I've always said black as I've only read AA in news, but after moving out west, I'd be corrected by other white folks from time to time. I've figured out now that it means they're only listening to other white people on racism. That performative BS gets damn aggravating when dealing with local politics as racism is behind literally every single major problem Seattle is having right now.

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u/bloodaxe51 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Please continue to say black. Being politically correct just erases a person's sense of being/culture sometimes and that's what the term African American does for a lot of people. Heck even a lot of black americans would rather be called black than African American for two reasons, 1) they are simply American. No one says European American for white people... 2) It erases a part of their identity. If you're half white and someone still calls you African American because of your skin tone(i.e. Obama) you are erasing the white part of that person's heritage.

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u/Ezl ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Also, imo, African American suggests a relationship to Africa that I simply don’t have.

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u/21stNow ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Black people argue that all Black people are African-American, too. Someone posted a tweet that she didn't realize that Idris Elba was British and a Black person replied "Well there's African-Americans in the UK, too."

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u/JellyBiafra54321 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

oh god, I hate those people. Charlize Theron is African American🥸

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u/MelaninTitan ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Look let's be honest. A lot of "African Americans" themselves identify more as "Black American" than "African American" and it makes a lot of sense to me.

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u/bloodaxe51 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Makes sense to me too. Black people have been in America for over 400 years. African American should literally be only used for African immigrants imo but here we are in 2022.

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u/JellyBiafra54321 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

I think it's actually a term that was pushed by Jesse Jackson during the civil rights movement of the 1960s and on. it was part of feeling closer to our ancestors or something like that.

find the article. it's from 1988.

many do not agree these days. if you were to look at current articles about the term, it's a no for most.

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u/QJElizMom ☑️ Sep 25 '22

I’m glad you posted this article. It wasn’t from the civil rights movement but in the 80s during a period of growth and seeking to write down and teach our history in this country. It was a way to connect to our ancestors who were unceremoniously stripped from their homelands, cultures and usually mothers and fathers so that even their language would be lost; all on purpose for easy control. They didn’t want us to come together, to talk to each other, to fight back; it was evil. So yes, we adopted AA for that reason only. Connecting to the Africans we came from that lost everything when they were taken.

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u/kashmir1974 Sep 25 '22

You have folks who are offended by Black.

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u/CrispierCupid Sep 25 '22

Like who

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u/Probably_A_Variant ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Dominicans

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u/accu22 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

"I no black, I'm Dominican!"

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u/_87- Sep 25 '22

And most of them are white

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u/MuffinPuff ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Ideally, people should be identified by ethnicity or ethnic origin, not fucking skin color. I'm fairly certain indigenous people from the African diaspora didn't call themselves "Black"; they had a name for every genre of people on the continent. It wasn't until White eyes got involved, that the term "Black" was applied to us, which is why I'm not satisfied with it.

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u/AoO2ImpTrip ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Here's the problem.

There are too many ways to refer to us as a people. I always tell the story of a girl in my sixth grade class who wanted to ask a question about black people but didn't know whether to use "black", "African American", or "colored people" (yes, that last one was a bit weird).

My teacher, a black woman, informed her "none of the above" and taught her the term "person of color" instead.

So, we've got "Black", "African American", and "Person of Color" but you can't be in a room with three folks who agree on what to be called. I prefer "Black" because I grew up in America like my father, his father, and his father before him. I have as much connection to Africa as my white friends. Yet, my dad only wants "African American" as a descriptor. And then we also have people going with "None of the Above" and preferring "ADOS" or something.

Basically, I don't blame them for playing it safe. "African American" is the safest term to use for them.

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u/therockethornet Sep 24 '22

Innate to white culture is somehow an ability to be savage af but also an intense fear of conflict and that conflict in and of itself is objectively bad.

We are seeing the battle between those two happen in real time in our government, since that culture holds the most real power. Unfortunately, the spineless ones are on our team. Some might call them the white moderate.

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u/Temporary_Scene_8241 Sep 25 '22

The white moderate is on both parties and probally are a key factor to both parties as they may often switch what party they vote often. (I assume). They dont want drama or anything too extra like Trump. I see them as kind of a check and balance.

And I'd say liberalism who are on our team has walked the walked and talked the talked for social justice progress in alot of ways for POC.

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u/Eleine Sep 25 '22

I am perpetually confused by American labels like "African American" being used for all black people from anywhere, and at least as perplexed over American Indian vs Indian American. Columbus fucked up centuries ago and we're just linguistically doubling down on it?

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u/JellyBiafra54321 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

'we' aren't. a certain section of the population is.

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u/RXCC00N Sep 25 '22

i used to play tabletop games w/ a white girl who referred to the black characters as "the african americans in star wars"

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u/ArrestDeathSantis ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Wait wait wait, if you're black where else could you be from?

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u/Madeiran Sep 25 '22

Vanuatu, Fiji, Solomon Islands, Papua New Guinea, and Australia (Aboriginals) to name a few

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u/ArrestDeathSantis ☑️ Sep 25 '22

You know I was being sarcastic?

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u/LaBonJame ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Sup wantok 🤣

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u/MuffinPuff ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Some parts of India have very dark skinned people as well.

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u/PaversPaving Sep 25 '22

Anthropology needs to be taught in high school or even lower.

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u/YoStephen Sep 24 '22

Idk when this happened but I think it was the 90s... people are straight up afraid to say words like "black" and "poor".

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u/IShitOnYourPost Sep 25 '22

For whatever reason when I am referring to black people I almost always say black folks. I don't know where it started but that's how it comes out. We good?

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u/JellyBiafra54321 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

you good with me, but I am pretty sure "folks" is somehow now offensive to some people.

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u/goldenboy2191 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

I always refer myself as black. Man, it makes white people uncomfortable af

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u/FreezeFrameEnding Sep 25 '22

Growing up, I was told not to say "black" because it would be considered disrespectful. A lot of white people are going off of that, and I think until other white people do the correcting it's going to be too many of us saying the ignorant shit. It's why I try to correct anyone I can on this because I know their eyes glaze over if they get a history lesson from someone that ain't white. It's super fucked up, but I know it's also my responsibility here along with any other white person who cares to listen and learn to correct these people until their eyes stop glazing and their hearts and minds open up enough that they start correcing others, too.

Black people should not have to do this. White people need to speak up and take the heat.

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u/GrilledCheeser Sep 24 '22

They meant well. It’s a process.

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u/bloodaxe51 ☑️ Sep 24 '22

Aye. Can't really be too hard on people who at least try to be better.

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u/joawmeens Sep 24 '22

Everybody knows that all characters have American citizenship automatically

We're the Imperialists of Toon Town

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u/AngryRepublican Sep 25 '22

Unless they are the baddies. Then they are from the UK.

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u/AdultishGamb1no ☑️ Sep 25 '22

It's a unique place that some white people are at where they mean well but are ignorant to the things they say. They aren't sure if they can say black so they say the political correct term in their environment......but brother come on african american doesn't even describe all black people in north or any in south america why are you using it to describe people in Africa?!

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u/thisimpetus Sep 25 '22

I'm Canadian and white; my mom calls black people in our province African American. It's kind of hilarious because from the Canadian perspective this is as much about our watching too much American media as it is about white people only learning from other white people how to talk about black people, but your comment describes her perfectly. She loves everyone she just doesn't know how to do it right, yet.

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u/FEMA_Camp_Survivor ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Second Amendment Canadians are a thing too.

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u/thisimpetus Sep 25 '22

Manitoba belongs in this country and I won't hear otherwise.

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u/chamberx2 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

My favorite thing lately is when people are learning about they/them pronouns, but somehow refer to them in a way that insinuates multiple (like Legion).

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u/10PFSD Sep 24 '22

Poor Pete. Was just trying not to be offensive is all

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u/mcaffrey81 Sep 24 '22

Shouldn’t the white one be from the Ivory Coast?

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u/delle_stelle ☑️ Sep 25 '22

ba dum tss

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u/ASAP_i Sep 24 '22

This guy gets an "E" for "effort"

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u/catagonia69 Sep 25 '22

This is actually incredibly unrealistic because whos's to say mermaid populations correlate to surface-dwelling ones and therefore their kingdoms and territories should be drawn with completely different boundaries than the ones that exist above the sea.

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u/-drunk_russian- Sep 25 '22

They should be translucent like some deep sea animals. I wanna see internal organs!

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u/DeafNatural ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Lol I had a student tell me the difference was African American meant you had a degree lmao. I wonder whose nerves he is working now lol

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u/DerFlamongo ☑️ Sep 25 '22

What the actual fuck o.O

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u/PurpleIntention7934 Sep 24 '22

Y'all really be expecting intelligence from some of the most clearly ignorant people.

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u/Mandalorian_Sith ☑️ Sep 25 '22

*willfully ignorant

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u/FuckingKilljoy Sep 25 '22

*unfortunately naive

He wants to be helpful but is just naive and uninformed. For a long time "African American" was seen as the mainstream "correct" term (although I feel like it's just white people that decided it was the correct term to use) so they're kinda stuck with it

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u/lollible Sep 25 '22

Only outsiders still call it Ivory Coast.

Known everywhere else as Côte d'Ivoire

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u/DerFlamongo ☑️ Sep 25 '22

I mean, you also (probably) say Switzerland and Spain rather than Schweiz and España, right? Why is it different in this case? (Honest question)

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u/ZigZagBoy94 ☑️ Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

Countries have spellings of their name that they choose to be officially recognized in English (as well as several other languages) in the UN.

These change from time to time.

Swaziland changed its official English UN recognized name to Eswatini several years ago

East Timor changed its official English UN recognized name to Timor Leste

Turkey is changed it’s official name UN recognized name to Türkiye just this year.

Ivory Coast similarly is officially Côte d’Ivoire

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u/DerFlamongo ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Huh, interesting - thanks!

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u/KingJoy79 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

I don’t understand why we have to keep explaining why there’s nothing wrong with having a black mermaid.

Why do we have to keep explaining this?

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u/JoeFelice Sep 25 '22

You don't have to engage with fascist man-children if you don't want to. Regular people, even Republicans, don't have this at top of mind. Feel free to ignore it.

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u/PaversPaving Sep 24 '22

Was the little mermaid from the United States?? Idk why the Ivory Coast mermaid would be African American. Is someone being from Africa offensive?

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u/energirl Sep 25 '22

As a traditional musical theatre fan whose favorite childhood movie was The Little Mermaid, I feel we need to keep Ariel's character consistent with Disney's (not necessarily Hans Christian Andersen's) original story. What was the most important characteristic of Ariel? Her singing voice. Can Halle Bailey sing? All I've heard so far is the single phrase from the trailer, but it sounds good so far. Nothing else should matter.

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u/LitmusPitmus Sep 24 '22

FBAs due to have a heart attack

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u/pestilenceinspring Sep 25 '22

I remember that episode. I want a movie about her💙

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u/danijay637 Sep 25 '22

I was more amazed that their hair stays in place and doesn’t just swirl around them like you would expect in water.

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u/MarquisW501 Sep 25 '22

African American from the Ivory Coast.....

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u/NullOpenZzz Sep 25 '22

I am thinking about getting my Kenyan citizenship. I am an American but since my parents are Kenyan I automatically can claim dual citizenship.

America might turn into Gilead.

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u/MuffinPuff ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Sis please take me with you.

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u/XLauncher ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Pete's got the spirit.

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u/Sexual_Stuntman Sep 25 '22

Just say black 🙄 it's what they mean to say anyway

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u/thekyledavid Sep 25 '22

Maybe she was born in the water surrounding America and moved to the Ivory Coast later

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u/Perfect-Season6116 Sep 25 '22

Fictional mermaids from the Ivory Coast can be African American too apparently. She's in international waters too, which means she is bound by the laws of no man.

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u/sundayontheluna Sep 24 '22

"She's African *and* American"

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u/EllisDee3 ☑️ Sep 24 '22

If she's from the Ivory Coast, she's not really American. Confusing term.

But she's not even from Ivory Coast. She's off the coast of Ivory Coast.

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u/danijay637 Sep 25 '22

International waters if you will

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u/lashapel ☑️ Sep 25 '22

When the word "black" is too offensive for some, so people have to use other term, I'm telling y'all one they they'll call black people "African defendant" lmao

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u/ApolloIsAnIntrovert Sep 25 '22

Ivory Coast 😭

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u/guyhabit Sep 25 '22

I hope Sebastian is a white woman.

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u/LukeSkyDropper Sep 25 '22

All I see are people complaining about people that aren’t even complaining about it.

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u/wildonrio Sep 24 '22

Is this from the movie or the tv show?

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u/YumLum_Key_213 Sep 24 '22

The show I think

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u/BigBlackDadof3 ☑️ Sep 25 '22

I missed that the first time I saw this tweet. Exactly how low is the bar?

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u/exq1mc ☑️ Sep 25 '22

Why is this even a discussion? The first reference to a mermaid in history is the goddess -Yemaja a West African deity.

So unless our gods are written about by people like Niel Gaiman ( props by the way ) our own history is just appropriated and not even remembered huh? Typical

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u/No-Affect7704 Sep 24 '22

American accent?

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u/justplainoldMEhere Sep 25 '22

She's hearing impaired.

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u/Callous_Mat Sep 25 '22

Hahaha ha... that's fucxing funny.

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u/dman928 Sep 25 '22

Pete gave it the old college try.